The Top Thirty Murder Cities In The U.S.

You can go with that if it suits you.

 

14 of the 30 cities are in the Great Lakes

 

Well, I'd say you've managed to take absurd to an entirely new level, so I guess I pretty well understand it.

 

The Dems created Fast & Furious. They armed illegal aliens and drug cartels during this operation. The Dems now want to disarm law abiding American Citizens. Yes that is absurd. Go ahead and dispute that.

 

The only thing that is not 100% correct about that is the first sentence. Technically they're not championing it, they just completely ignore it and focus on AR-15s, when every rifle in the US combined kills like 600 people a year, across the board.

When was the last time you heard a peep about gang violence which is that 14-21 demographic that are putting each other in the dirt pretty efficiently.

Everything else is spot on.

 

F&F was the Dem name for it; Operation Wide Receiver was the Repub name under Bush; both were run out of the Phoenix ATF office. Same, or similar problems occurred during Operation Wide Receiver as F&F.

 

Actually, Washington DC leads the list but is never counted.

 

Look here here You know of all these weapons that went to illegals and cartels, but still have the asurdity to want American citizens disarmed.

If the Dems knew that Op linebacker was a complete failure , why do it again with thousands more weapons? You can't blame the republicans for that. Don't expect me to defend linebacker or any pro illegal policy by either side. But the party line puller in you says it is ok because Bush did it. What crock of (*)(*)(*)(*). Someone murdered someone is it ok for me too, I'm not first?

 

Who also happen to have a 5.6% gun ownership rate.

Gee I wonder how DC murders are so high? That's not the whole story though, as forcible rape is also higher than it's been since 1984.

Way to go gun control! Letting 100lb women be raped and gun crime is higher than ever.

 

Agreed. The Federal government should not be immune to prosecution for such things, regardless of who does it.

I mean we can't carry guns to protect ourselves but the Feds can sell them to drug cartels? They say "sorry" and that's the end of it?

 

It would be interesting to see a comparison contrast of two similar cities in terms of race, population, median income, where one city has a republican mayor and the other has a democrat mayor.

 

Gun crime is always higher in the inner city of any large metropolitan area. Black on black crime, probably related to the drug economy is a large problem here and it has taken off this year with a couple of deaths and a number of injured just today. Personally I heard 5 shots this morning but no one was shot around this area. We have a Republican mayor being replace by a Democratic mayor this election so I am not sure a mayor has much to do with it other than how many cops can they put on the streets.

 

Or
It would be interesting to see a comparison between democratic vs republican states and draw an inferance

Imo, this thread raises a typical problem of confusing correlation with causation
Typically, large cities tend to be run by democrats
And one could easily speculate why this is the case
My own view is that big cities do not work well with the republican architecture of minimal government
But why ever it is that there is more crime in cities
There is no demonstrable causitive equation where democratic city leaders Somehow promote crime
So the city's political leadership and its crime rate are independent variables that sometimes appear to be correlated.... But are not causatively related

 

2703 Shootings, 440 Deaths Year-To-Date In Heavily Gun-Controlled Chicago

Gun control, making you safer.

 

Attributing that to "progressive policy" without any evidence to back it up or even anything specific, is about as dumb as attributing it to lax gun control.

Maybe... but don't black people tend to murder each other more than they murder white people? I'm picturing mostly gang activity here, turf wars in neighborhoods where white people don't even live. So if you're a white person moving there, the risk may be overblown if only considering the raw murder rate.

Actually you don't get their point. Urban areas tend to elect democrats, and cities are urban. Rural areas are more likely to elect republicans, but would not appear in a "most violent" cities list because they're rural. In order for this kind of data to mean anything, you'd have to compare the effect on crime when the party of the mayor changes. Comparing cities has too many confounding factors.

 

Clandestine Lutherans are hard to spot.

 

I'd wage the farm on it.

 

O i dont know if thats true. Detroit is at 30 year low in murder rates. The police chief just came out and told the citizens to arm themselves last year.

 

WOooo there cowboy....I'm not attributing it to lax gun control, that would be progressives, who, if you care to do any research, control (and have controlled), the vast majority of cities who's gun related crimes are off the charts. That's just fact. I'm shocked someone as brilliant as you wouldn't know that. Shocked!

 

This is a reading comprehension issue. I was making a comparison assuming that you do know gun control isn't helpful.

 

Liberal Democratic City Leaders promote crime by having (a usually racist) attitude that "It's not your fault and you shouldn't be punished because:...."

When Liberals have the mentality of "If the glove don't fit, you can't convict"----then massive crime will be a direct result.

There is a perfect one to one correlation to the 10 most violent cities in America and Liberal Democrat mayors.

That is fact, and this has been fact for year after year.

 

Shall we compare dallas and new york city
Certainly you will agree that if what you claim is true
Nyc will have sky high rates and dallas very low rates of crime?

 

Stay on subject: FACT: All of the most dangerous cities in the US over the last decade at least, have had Liberal Democrats as mayors.

 

Fact
Most large cities have democratic leadership

Just because a city or state has democratic leadership
Is not related to crime rate
It is the standard problem of concluding that correlation is causation


Are you seriously proposing g that crime rates in these cities could be lowered simply by electing a republican mayor??????

The FACT is that if there is such a direct causative link as you suggest
Nyc would have a high crime rate and dallas a low one
Since that is not the case
The causative factor you propose is not operating

 

The cities with high crimes rates should do what Detroit did and have a GOP guardian appointed.

NYC has one of 25 most dangerous neighborhoods in the US.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/photos/most-dangerous-neighborhoods/#!fullscreen&slide=987568

(PS. the real cause of high crime is demographics aka your Black and Hispanic allies).