The Trumpist claim that we're 'a republic, not a democracy' is even more dangerous than it sounds

Burning and looting isn't protected by the 1st Amendment

Trump excercise his 1st Amendment right to petition the government for redress of grievances.

BLM and ANTIFA broke the law. Thanks for exhibiting your double standard.

 

DEFLECTION
Neither you or the UK being a Democracy has anything to do with the US Constitution or its bill of rights or the institution of being a Republic.
Sorry,

 

DEFLECTION
That sentence doesn't even make any sense

DEFLECTION
Nobody attempted to bully you. Now your just faking claims

How can you discuss the Constitution as being a Republic instead of a Democracy if you don't address its bill of rights that is in place as a Republic to protect the minority?
Which defines the Constitution as a Republic.
Now I know why you got so much wrong

Everyone who has addressed your post has refuted what you say.
EVERYONE

 

Oh give it a miss.
The DOJ on day 3 and 6 have been exploring the Pence Card.
Look it up.
Then come back to me about breaking the law.

 

There were at least 9 people killed at BLM protests during the summer of 2020 rioting. Did you not know about this, or did you know and are simply trying to assert that those killings were not crimes?

 

And I am supposed to care?
I sincerely really do not need your approval.
And you can stop the personal bullying
It doesn't touch me mate.

 

And you can stop with your pitiful cry me a river bullying claims.
Their as fake as your claims.

 

You can stop whale washing budd

You don't get to corrupt what I said and then use it against me.
This is the genetic methodology of a tyrant/ dictator. The source of the Inquisition and your Republican luvvie, Joe Mc Carthy who misrepresented singular opinions and was the closest moment the US came to fascism.
Don't try that on me, mate.

 

I can tell you nose to nose mate.
You don't even bounce my boat. Let alone rock it. I offer you a wider view. Whether you accept it or not is your reputation.

 

Yet is the very same breath you claim to be bullied.
Who'd a thunk

 

What does this mean?.
A republic and a democracy are not synonymous.
Neither is a democracy and the attempted coup on 6th January synonymous.

 

Lots of verbiage, but all you have to do is read the Constitution.

The USA as outlined in the Constitution is not a democracy. Only the House is elected by the people, the President is selected by the electoral college, senators are appointed by each state legislators.

That was done for specific reasons - to prevent concentration of power in the feds.

Today the USA is on paper a direct democracy, (the very thing the founders hated) but that’s assuming elections are honest and as we all know elections are full of fraud.

 

But the president is still elected by the electoral college , not directly.

 

A constitution does not define either a republic or a democracy though democracies usually have some sort of Constitution.
The UK does not have a written Constitution and is a democracy but not a Republic. Denmark and Holland are democracies but also have a monarch so are not Republics.

republic
/rɪˈpʌblɪk/noun

1. a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

THE DEFINING N0MENCLATURE OF A REPUBLIC IS A LACK OF A MONARCH OR UNELECTED AUTHORITATIVE FIGURE.
So any country run by the winner of a coup is not a Republic.
Republics are democracies but democracies are not always Republics.
Some Democracies are constitutional monarchies.

Do you understand now?

 

Excuse me but when I hear someone on the right declare 'America is not a democracy' and I see them creating voter suppression laws, excuse me for putting two and two together.

 

So what? That pledge does not say 'And to the Republic which is not a democracy for which it stands'.

That doesn't negate the fact that America is a democracy.

Duh.

The EC doesn't change the fact that America is a democracy. Why?

The point is, 'democracy' is a broad term, signifying more than just how a nation votes for it's leaders, it signifies a nation of rule of law as opposed to rule of a tyrant, it signifies a nation where people can engage in a the free exchange of ideas with impunity, freedom of association/assembly as embodied in a bill of rights, etc., the term 'democracy' embodies all of these things and this idea that America is not a democracy based on Madison's parochial use of the term is a silly argument. No author of history, no teacher, no professor or academician assert that America is not a democracy. In my entire life, 71 years, I never heard anyone make this claim until republicans started losing the popular vote.

So? Democracy and Republic are not mutually exclusive terms.

So? Democracy and Republic are not mutually exclusive terms.

NONE of the documents use the following phrase:

America is not a democracy .


Remember, 'Democracy and Republic are not mutually exclusive terms.

None of the references to 'Republic" add the "America is not a democracy' qualifier only YOU are adding to it.

Democracy and Republic are not mutually exclusive terms. Both have BROADER definitions than how you are using them.

Article 4 section 4 of the Us Constitution:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government...

So, what is a 'republican form of government'?

A 'republican form of government' is a representative democracy.

So says the US Citizenship and Immigration Department of the United States Government who teach our newest citizens what a 'democracy' is.

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/lesson-plans/Government_and_You_handouts.pdf

Democracy in the United States.

The United States is a representative democracy. This means that our government is elected by citizens. Here, citizens vote for their government officials. These officials represent the citizens’ ideas and concerns in government. Voting is one way to participate in our democracy. Citizens can also contact their officials when they want to support or change a law. Voting in an election and contacting our elected officials are two ways that Americans can participate in their democracy.

And semantics are at play here. because the term 'democracy' or 'liberal democracy' is a concept more than just 'voting'. It relates to the notion of a citizenship who have freedom of assembly, freedom of association, freedom of speech, as embodied in the Bill of Rights. When we say 'America is a liberal democracy', no one is referring to voting directly for laws, it's concept embodying all of these things of which a representative body elected by citizens is part. It means the power of our leaders flows from the people.

What do we think of when the term 'liberal democracy' is spoken?

We think of all the nations of the western world, all of whom are said to be 'liberal democracies' or 'western democracies' inclusive of the USA, Canada, and the European nations and others ..To wit;

Liberal Democracies of the world. (Wikipedia)

There is agreement amongst several intellectuals and organizations such as Freedom House that the states of the European Union (with the exception of Poland and Hungary), United Kingdom, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, Japan, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, South Korea, Taiwan, the United States, India, Canada,[27][28][29][30][31] Uruguay, Costa Rica, Israel, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand[32] are liberal democracies, with India currently having the largest population among the democracies in the world.[33]

 

Teachers, professors, academicians, and authors of history say that America is a democracy.

It is a Republic, as well, but which are not mutually exclusive terms.

Article 4 section 4 of the Us Constitution:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government...

So, what is a 'republican form of government'?

A 'republican form of government' is a representative democracy.

What that means, is that the United States is a democracy of a certain type, a representative democracy. This is fulfilled by Congress, the House of Representatives, The Senate, The VP (to break ties) and the President (to sign legislation).

So says the United States Government

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/lesson-plans/Government_and_You_handouts.pdf

Democracy in the United States.

The United States is a representative democracy. This means that our government is elected by citizens. Here, citizens vote for their government officials. These officials represent the citizens’ ideas and concerns in government. Voting is one way to participate in our democracy. Citizens can also contact their officials when they want to support or change a law. Voting in an election and contacting our elected officials are two ways that Americans can participate in their democracy.


The point is, terms like 'Constitutional Republic', 'Republican Form of Government' "Representative Democracy' are not mutually exclusive terms.

 

Article 4 section 4 of the Us Constitution:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government...

So, what is a 'republican form of government'?

A 'republican form of government' is a representative democracy.

What that means, is that the United States is a democracy of a certain type, a representative democracy. This is fulfilled by Congress, the House of Representatives, The Senate, The VP (to break ties) and the President (to sign legislation).

So says the US Citizenship and Immigration Department of the United States Government

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/lesson-plans/Government_and_You_handouts.pdf

Democracy in the United States.

The United States is a representative democracy. This means that our government is elected by citizens. Here, citizens vote for their government officials. These officials represent the citizens’ ideas and concerns in government. Voting is one way to participate in our democracy. Citizens can also contact their officials when they want to support or change a law. Voting in an election and contacting our elected officials are two ways that Americans can participate in their democracy.

 

Why are y'all so hung up on this?

 

Read the article

 

Blah blah blah you are repeating your incorrect BS. See my previous post.

 

I asked YOU.

 

Not, they don't lol

Yeah, they are.

False lol

 

Doesn't have to. Anyone with an IQ 0ver 20 knows what it means.

The EC is the perfect example of why were are not a Democracy

False. They are two different forms of governing
A Democracy rules by majority
A Republic protects the rights of the minorities.

They also don't say we were created by space aliens. Does that mean we were? lol

Man, it just digs at your that Republicans got their name from the Constitution as being a Republic, doesn't it. lol