The Truth About Palestine and Israel

Now that is funny.

You actually are continuing to try to retroactively justify an action based on the retaliation of that action. Bass Ackwards there Bendor.

As for your demand I recuse myself from further discussion, How about you doing the same, given the remarkable blatant and idiotic hypocrisy of your rationales for such a statement in the first place.

(Balance is something you appear to lack in spades).

 

One happened in 1948 the other started in 1948, 1954, 1957, 1967... retroactively my left foot.

Not worth retorting, have a nice day... You have proven my point exactly.
You can use any pejorative you need to blurt... Sticks and Stones... my friend.

 

and you are not equally biased in favor of Israeli Jews?

 

I am a proud Israeli Jew, not like many in the Golah/exile, I am a Jew who fought three times for his Patrimony...

My friend every man and woman has to find his niche... Israel is the country reconstituted for the in-gathering of world Jewry and not world Arabs!

 

To illustrate the above retort and substantiate it factually, here is the latest statement by the New Deputy Foreign Minister Hotovely:


New deputy foreign minister's words were broadcast to Israel’s 106 representations abroad.

Tzipi Hotovely
Likud MK Tzipi Hotovely. (photo credit:MARC ISRAEL SELLEM/THE JERUSALEM POST)


Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely swept into her new office on Thursday using religious-based arguments and telling ministry employees all of the Land of Israel belongs to the Jews.

Hotovely, who served as deputy transportation minister in the last government, reworked one of the slogans her previous ministry made well known: “On the road, don’t be right, be smart.”

For many years, she said, Israel’s diplomats have tried to be smart, rather than right.

“Many times it seems that in our international relations, more than emphasizing the rightness of our cause, we are asked to use arguments that play well diplomatically,” she told ministry employees. “But at a time when the very existence of Israel is being called into question, it is important to be right.”

Hotovely’s words were also broadcast to Israel’s 106 representations abroad.

“The international community deals with considerations of justice and morality,” she said. “We need to return to the basic truth of our right to this land.”

Hotovely quoted the late journalist and settlement leader Uri Elitzur as saying that for the last 40 years, while the Palestinians were demanding their lands, Israel responded that: “We have strategic interests and security concerns.”

Those arguments, she said, were the arguments of a robber.

“If I wear your coat because I’m cold, and I can prove pragmatically and analytically that it really is cold for me, the world will ask a primitive and analytic question: Who does the coat belong to? In this context, it is important to say that this coat is ours, this country is ours, all of it. We didn’t come here to apologize for that.”

Hotovely said the world understands Israel’s security needs, but arguments based on justice and morality always trump those dealing with security concerns.

She also quoted from an interview former foreign minister Shlomo Ben-Ami gave following the breakdown of the Camp David talks in 2000. Ben-Ami, who was Labor’s foreign minister under Ehud Barak, said it was impossible for him to shake the impression that more than the Palestinians want a solution to the conflict, they want to put Israel in the defendant’s dock.

“More than they want a state of their own, they want to throw us out of our own. In the deepest sense possible this is a negative ethos,” she said, quoting Ben-Ami. “That is why, as opposed to the Zionists, they are unable to compromise, because they don’t have an image of a society in the future for which it is worth compromising.”

The deputy minister ended her comments by quoting from Rashi, the famed medieval commentator, on the first line of the Torah. The reason the Torah began with the story of creation, Rashi explained, was so that when the world would call Israel robbers for having stolen the Land of Israel from others, the Jews would be able to answer that the land belongs to God, and that he gave it to whom he desired.

“If the Jews were convinced in the righteousness of their path, and that is their land, they would manage with the world,” she said, quoting Rabbi Yehuda Leon Ashkenazi, one of the leaders of French Jewry in the last century.

Hotovely told the workers, many of them demoralized that various aspects of Israel’s diplomacy has been parceled off to different ministries, that she would fight to help the ministry restore its status as the central arm of Israeli diplomacy.

Hotovely’s comments came the same day that the French newspaper Le Figaro reported that a proposed French UN Security Council draft resolution, being drawn up with New Zealand, sets an 18-month deadline for completion of negotiations leading to a Palestinian state.

The Guardian reported that leaking the details of the draft now “appears designed to put pressure on Netanyahu’s new right-wing government – in which opponents of a two-state solution hold prominent positions – to return to talks.”

President Reuven Rivlin, who in the past was a prominent opponent to a two-state solution, met Thursday with EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini and reiterated the commitment Netanyahu made a day earlier to a two-state solution.

Israel knows the importance of the role Europe takes in trying to bring the 150-year-old conflict between Israel and the Palestinians to an end, he said.

Rivlin said he was confident the conflict could be overcome with the help of sincere elements from the Western world, but emphasized that in the final analysis, it can be resolved only by an agreement reached by the two parties themselves.

Referring to Netanyahu’s comments a day earlier, Rivlin said all of Israel and “the whole world” heard it.

Mogherini was accompanied during her two-day visit by Fernando , the EU’s new envoy to the Middle East Peace Process. Unlike former EU envoys who traveled back and forth from Europe, Gentilini is expected to be permanently based in Israel.

Greer Fay Cashman contributed to this report.

 

I was not aware that retroactive was time limited. are you for a moment suggesting that the jewish expulsions were NOT reactive?

I am absolutely amazed that you seem to think that self righteousness is not a form of intransigent bias, although I am not surprised that you cannot recognize the blatant hypocrisy of your "recuse" demand.

 

I belong to the ME, you are from Canada... If I speak I speak for my country... You mentioned you have not dog in this fight ... I doubt it.

I give up, you win, ta ta

 

so Israel's declaration of independence, which guarunteed equal rights for non-Jews, was a lie?

I figured as much.

 

No one touched the <guaranties>... declaration of independence does not grant two States for two peoples? One for the Jews and one the Arabs!

The Mandate was for the Reconstitution of the Jewish National Home

The British authorities themselves recognized that their first obligation was to help achieve the establishment of the Jewish National Home. Thus, the Colonial Office wrote to the Palestine Arab delegation in April 1922 that "the declaration, as you are aware, provided, first, for the establishment of a national home for the Jews in Palestine; and, secondly, for the preservation of the rights and interests of the non Jewish population of the country."

 

Terrorists Launch Multiple Rockets Into Israel
~by TheTower.org Staff | 05.26.15 4:33 pm



Here we go again, it seems that the temporary cease fire has come to an end and now this is going to be a daily occurrence.

Prepare yourself for retaliation and blood letting on both sides



http://www.thetower.org/2084-terrorists-launch-multiple-rockets-into-israel/

 

Im pretty sure HBendor was not present at the time they wrote and signed the declaration of independence, if you care at all you can visit Israel and meet some real ppl instead of getting your inputs from pissed off commentors and propaganda sites, I mean you spend alot of time in such sites, you already "switched" sides and now you are a "Good Jew" , perhaps talk to some real ppl ?

Yea...I figured as much

 

Another alternative is to watch the clip...

Courage: The reason I'm an Israeli=Arab Diplomat Not a Palestinian Refugee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1J16RBbNpk

 

yes, a good Jew rejects racism and extremism.

 

And avoids conflicts and pissing ppl up whenever possible, to those that stayed in Europe or fled to America I suppose some things look racist and extreme, I dont expect you to understand decades of fighting and living together with "enemies" at same time, I suggested you learn more if the issue is important to you, then again I may have credit you more than you deserve, it could be just you sold your ppl for peace and quit in your college surrounding or whatever.

 

I am not and, I was not even aware that this pretentious fellow is a Jew, I think he is an Arab masquerading as a Jew that has already changed the flag of his nationality 4 x times.

 

Isaiah 49, 17

Sounds much better in Hebrew thou.