There is no republican party platform. Its all about Trump.

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Isn't Steve Schmidt the chief political strategist for the Biden campaign now, or am I confusing him with John Kasich? ;-)

    “Few genres are more media marketable than the car crash. It explains, in large part, the left’s ongoing fascination with Palin. In his public agony, Schmidt deftly cut himself into the Palin buffet line. Left-leaning operators from the Hollywood and Washington—New York media fell deeply for him. It was another instance of the media swooning over Republicans with self-flagellating tendencies, especially when they defy conservative orthodoxy and move left. (McCain being the object lesson in this with his maverick campaign of 2000, when he was that “refreshingly candid” McCain, as opposed to when he later moved right in 2008 and became the “bitter” McCain).”
    Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, p. 290.

    I am sure Schmidt will serve the DP as well as he served the RP. :)
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    The DNC's platform-

    We crapped our pants and destroyed our cities, and it's all Trump's fault! You'd better vote for Biden, or we'll crap our pants and destroy our cities more!
     
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    I think they tried that for a while, but it's a very hard sell.
    The passive DP/PD would beat the crap out of any RP false flaggers - and everyone knows it.
    Republicans get arrested for making chalk marks on a sidewalk.
     
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    And if done with the intent to deface a pro- #BLMob message, they get charged with a hate crime.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    The economy is doing rather well while the DP burns down its cities.
    So, threatening to throw themselves onto more of the bonfires of their DP vanity is kind of punk at this point. The rest of America should be able to shelter and protect the refugees.
     
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    Yep. Amazing how easy it is for the DP/PDs to suppress political dissent when ordered to do so.
     
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    He is usually worth reading.
    The opposition doesn't always get everything wrong even though it often seems like they do. :)
     
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    and add that Blue hates the principles of classical liberalism. Agree on Green. Disagree on how you describe Libertarians but - in general they are not consistent nor unified - having no consistent platform.
     
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    I went back and read it. Now I feel dumber.
     
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    Lets get one thing straight - your knowledge of the overall Climate Equation is way to low for you to make such a claim - and citing one article does not change this.

    Second - your link does not support your claim - there is ZERO in that link that states Trump will increase global fossil fuel consumption. .


    I have never claimed that Trumps policies are good for the environment... Trump is Pathetic on the Environment - as is Blue.

    The question here is who is worse .. and Blue is far worse in respect to the overall enviro equation "Which includes more than just CO2"

    1) you have failed to make a case that Red will increase the Carbon Equation
    2) you have failed to address Pipelines - which do not play a very small role - they play a huge role in environmental pollution - quit making stuff up because you don't know what you are talking about and pretending your made up nonsense is true.

    3) You have failed to quantify your claim in any way - you give ZERO basis for comparison.

    Last - explain to me how any of Trumps policies will affect how often you use your car.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What part of "Never Quit" are you having trouble understanding ? You have been reduced to a puddle - curled up on the floor murmuring gibberish to yourself - completely unable to deal with the reality in front of you.
     
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    what I see here at best is your interpretation of their platform, or what what you wish that platform were, or maybe what YOUR platform is. It sure as hell is not in proper context. Party members pick the language, not spiritgide, vote on the language, and document it. Keep your spin of republicanism out of this. Link or don't bother
     
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    Except for the very important list of differences I gave you that you chose to dismiss.
     
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    You didn't give - me- anything.
     
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    Huh?


     
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    Okay...so how many of Biden's associates have been indicted, convicted, sent to prison?
     
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    If you are a reasonably competent person, you do not take any body's description of themselves or their values as reliable- you look at the actions and the results of their actions. Words are hot air; anybody can say anything. What get's done is what puts numbers on the scoreboard. If you listened to Biden's speech, it was like a Jeff Dunham show- you know it was not Bidens mind or character speaking, and you know it probably required a dozen takes and lots of editing to clean up. It worked for those who are determined to believe, but was ludicrous to those who judged the speech in the light of prior actions.

    That's why we see virtually nothing but hot air from the democrats- they have nothing in the way of accomplishments they can claim, and Trump has a big stack of them.
    I realize that the endless array of schemes to undermine the president, increasingly higher in desperation and lower in moral justification may seem like getting something done- but all have failed, and in the meantime the democratic congress has done nothing good for the nation, while the dem-run cities have allowed their embracing of disruption to cost us billions of dollars- at a time when existing crisis should have been their number one priority. You may not like Trumps personality, but he scores for the nation, while the dems sabotage it.

    It would be great to see some democrats like we had 60 years ago- but I suspect is the carbon copy of JFK appeared to run for office today, the dems would immediately reject him as not radical enough. I don't mind them sowing the seeds of their own destruction- I do mind them wanting to take the rest of the nation down with them. "Free" is not a platform- it's sucker bait, a con job. Thus.... the democrats truly do not have a "platform". And no track record to back any of it up.

    Joe's been in politics 50 years. Now, he's suddenly going to "fix" all the sh*t he helped put in place over that time that we have to deal with today? Give me a break. He's not even sure what state he's in today, let alone have any ability to "fix" anything,.
     
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    You're probably the only one who reads them. I've been interested in politics ever since I first watched the Democratic and republican conventions way back in 1956 on TV. Only 2 channels then and both carried the conventions. A week long affair. I never read a one or even heard of anyone referring to them since. But good for you.
     
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    I don't expect Trump to make it past 20 Jan 2021. But I do expect a resurgence of the GOP in 2022 by the Republicans taking back the house. This election is all about Trump and for the most part getting rid of him. It is not an endorsement of the Democratic Party. That party is almost as disliked by America as a whole as the Republican Party is. But the Democrats will take this election as a mandate for their policies instead of what it actually is, getting rid of Trump. Then they'll over reach believing in their mandate and that the people love them when actually they were the choice of the lesser evil at this time.

    Don' t worry about the Republican Party, the Democrats will keep it alive and well and put the GOP back in power by misreading this election totally.
     
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    Whenever anyone sees or hears Steve Schmidt that is likely to happen. ;-)
     
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    Trump is in a far stronger position than the RP.
    Voters may decide that the DP is now simply too dangerous to vote for, but that does not mean that they will hold their noses and vote for repulsive professional RP politicians.
     
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    I am competent enough not to take your word defining or labeling anybody else's values but your own. Its up to you to define your values, not me, and each party and candidate has the same right and duty. I asked about the 2020 republican platform, you have yet to link us to it or even quote from it.. When you do, you will have some credibility on the topic at hand. This post above is about your spin, your ideas, and your agenda.
     
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    We saw some of that in 2016. When 9 million voters chose to vote third party against both major party candidates. That was 6% of the electorate. By comparison in 2012 1.5% voted third party, 1.2% in 2008 and an even 1.0% in 2004. I'm talking Trump vs. Clinton, not the congressional races which in 2016 when 49.1% voted for the republican congressional candidates vs. 48.0% for the Democrats. Republican congressional candidate received a higher percentage of the vote than Trump who received 46%.

    I think it's too early to make any November predictions, but if the election were held today, I'd say Biden wins, the Democrats pick up a few house seats and regain the senate. That's what the numbers show today. But everything is dynamic and we've yet to enter the full blown campaign season at which time many things change.
     
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    The underpeformance of the Democrats in the 2018 election -- and the inability of the Democrats to recognize it - generally supports this.
     
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    Well, it's certainly not about you doing your own homework; actually doing a quick check rather than thinking whatever you want.
    Link below to the applicable document; it is a continuation exactly of the 2016 platform. Smart people don't fix what isn't broken, you know. It's not Trump who needs a new pitch- it's the dems, and they are obviously desperate, or they wouldn't be reaching into la-la-land for voter bait.


    "The G.O.P. Delivers Its 2020 Platform. It’s From 2016.
    The Republican National Committee dispensed with producing a new platform, instead renewing what delegates enacted in 2016 and offering wholehearted support for President Trump, whose campaign also released a 50-point plan outlining “core priorities.”

    https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf
     
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