There is no right to have an abortion .. part 2

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Fugazi, May 7, 2016.

  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well Frank....perhaps you might also wish to incorporate all the additional measures than have been proven to lessen the need for abortion?
     
  2. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your lack of reading comprehension is your problem.
     
  3. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Why do you blame others for your own racist and bigoted posts?

    Did a Dem force you to post those racist and bigoted comments?

    Nope!

    You posted those racist and bigoted comments all by yourself.

    And no, posting your racist and bigoted comments does not make you right.
     
  4. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    """"As large as the school was, and as much walking as we all had to do from class to class, it seems very likely I would have noticed some of the girls.""""



    I have never seen a volcano so there is no such thing.

    I have never seen a polar bear in the wild so there is no such thing.

    I have never seen Russia so there is no such thing.

    I have never seen your high school so there is no such thing.

    Since I walk I would've noticed such things but I didn't so they don't exist.


    Nope, sex wasn't invented in the 1970's.

    It's been around, with the accompanying wed and unwed pregnancy and abortion, since the very first people.


    See, if sex wasn't discovered until the 1970's nobody would be here...



    ....and, back to the topic, women have a basic human , legal, common sense right to have an abortion and nobody can stop them :)
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not REAL, Robert. It didn't exist. If you insist on wearing blinders in addition to rose colored glasses, you can't see the real world.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for being kind. :roll:
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep in mind the term Lying Ted.

    Will you knock off the lies please?
     
  8. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Only one who is LYING is YOU!

    Are you DENYING that you posted this racist and bigoted statement in post #55 ?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=455523&page=6&p=1066162443#post1066162443

    Why are you LYING about your own racist and bigoted statements now?

    Are you that dishonest that you cannot even admit what YOU actually posted?

    Blacks only made up 10% of the population in the 1950's but in your racist and bigoted mind they were responsible for the teen pregnancy rate being way higher than it is today?

    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/cspan/1940census/CSPAN_1940slides.pdf

    Why are so allergic to FACTS and REALITY?
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is something sick about you and your posts.

    You attack without even trying to understand.

    What did I say?

    Let me give you the you are an idiot treatment since you picked a fight with me.

    We had so few blacks ....... that is not racist. It is the truth. At my highschool It was almost never that I saw blacks. We had thousands of students and maybe under 50 were blacks if that many.

    I commented that MAYBE ... what does maybe mean in your hatred lidden mind? Maybe the graph is more accurate about blacks, as a question is somehow bigoted? If there is a more bigoted person than you are, I want to see him or her.

    My topic was my high school. What I observed there. To call me names because I explained what things were like is worse than mean spirited, you are just flat wrong.

    I think for you left wingers, you can't stand the word black being put into a sentence.

    Well, I don't post to please you.


    I would put the black population where I lived at under 1 percent.

    Actually I asked a question that you claim is a statement of fact. Nope, questions are not statements of fact.

    You are mean. I believe you are mean to your locals too.

    You live for the fight.

    I enjoy chatting with folks is all.
     
  10. Gorn Captain

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    You're not a Trump supporter....are you???
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My candidate dropped out.

    Here in CA, it does not matter if I vote or not. The Democrats own socialist California.
     
  12. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Why did YOU make the racist and bigoted ASSUMPTION that "maybe" it was blacks who were to BLAME for teen pregnancies?

    Why do you have to BLAME others for YOUR racism and bigotry?

    Why can't YOU take RESPONSIBILITY for being a racist and a bigot?

    Is it because you are ashamed of exposing your racism and bigotry?

    No one here forced you to post that racism and bigotry.

    That came from YOU and YOU alone. No one else mentioned race and ethnicity until YOU brought it up.

    Pointing out YOUR racism and bigotry is NOT picking a fight, it is stating a FACT about what YOU posted.

    Projecting YOUR shortcomings on others is a puerile deflection on your part.

    Your racism and bigotry are YOUR problem.
     
  13. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, maybe you are black and filled with hate. Don't blame me for your life.

    No, the problem is people like you hate so much you try to fight with posters by giving them hell over your personal problems.
     
  14. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    WHAT!
    YOU are the one bringing up personal stories, your personal problems, making false accusations. ...and NOTHING else! YOU are the one who can't address the topic.....
     
  15. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually I enjoy personal stories told by those telling the truth. Sorry you hate such stories. What false accusations

    The topic never has been me. But the Democrats aka left wingers constantly try to make me the problem, as you just did or tried to do.
     
  16. Gorn Captain

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    But who WOULD you vote for in November for President? Nobody?
     
  17. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I got the ballot yesterday.

    I normally vote. But again, in CA, to vote for a republican is hopeless. This ship sailed years ago.

    I promised to never vote for a Democrat since I was a sorry person that supported them until 1980 after living to a then 42 yrs of age.
     
  18. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    If you just want friendly "chats" there's a "members chatting"" forum here......but if you want the truth from personal stories you will always be disappointed. Did you know thaty ou can't believe everything you read on the Internet?

    Here you'll have to get back to the topic....if you don't like the topic or the replies then the Members chat room is for you....
     
  19. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    And the problem with how you learnt is that it was not from an informed source, I bet your cousins didn't teach you about relationships, about peer pressure, etc etc and to be honest I'd rather a student had the correct knowledge about contraception etc than go into sex blindfolded.

    There are plenty of research papers that show students who have comprehensive sex education are less likely to get pregnant or catch an STD once they do become sexual active.

    http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/pu.../409-the-truth-about-abstinence-only-programs

    - - - Updated - - -

    Wrongful pregnancy already establishes pregnancy as an injury, if it were not then compensation claims would not be presented to courts . .without a pregnancy there can be no claim.
     
  20. Derideo_Te

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    So instead of dealing with your racism and bigotry problem you double down on it?

    Why is it that racists and bigots lack any shred of honesty and integrity whatsoever?

    Why do they project their own egregious shortcomings onto others?

    Those are rhetorical questions because racists and bigots are incapable of addressing their failings.

    That much is abundantly obvious to normal rational people.
     
  21. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    It was for any other reason than procreation.

    The Council of Trent (1546) declared that amor concupiscentiae, or sensual longing (i.e.: lust), was not sin in and of itself but did have the potential to lead to sin. Eventually, the Catholic Church formally decided that sex for the sole purpose of pleasure was not appropriate. Individuals who seek sex merely for physical pleasure—even within a marriage—are not exemplifying the spirit of mutual submission God intended. Sex should be a part of and a result of a loving marriage relationship, not merely a physical release.

    Again this is purely a cultural issue, nothing to do with sex itself, it is the attitude of mainly the male of the species that a girl who shows flesh or dresses provocatively is "up for it" when in reality what they wear (or do not wear as the case may be) is no indication of whether they are "up for it" or not. The suppression of sexuality is a relatively modern concept promoted by religion based on the supposed lower status of women due to Eve succumbing to the serpents guile and placing Adam at odds to God's commands and leading to their expulsion from the Garden of Eden. Even the bible condones the subjugation of women - "Wives be subject to your husbands as you are to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife just as Christ is the head of the church, the body of which he is the Savior. Just as the church is subject to Christ, so also wives ought to be, in everything, to their husbands" (Ephesians 5.22-24).

    Christian texts also condone male violence against women and the domination of women. For example, the right of chastisement was the enforcer of women's subordination in marriage. In the "Rules of Marriage" compiled by Friar Cherubino in the 15 th century (Bussert, 1986) we find the careful instruction to a husband to first reprimand his wife; "And if this still doesn't work . . . take up a stick and beat her soundly . . . for it is better to punish the body and correct the soul than to damage the soul and spare the body"

    What I find demeaning as a male is the assumption that a woman showing flesh or dressing provocatively would inflame my desires so much that I would not or could not control myself, if that is truly how some men think then they should be ashamed of themselves.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Again this is allowing cultural influences to dictate other peoples lives, and I have to add that correlation does not equal causation. If we judged people less on how they look and more on who they actually are there would be far less discrimination and "slut shaming"
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Personal I believe yes they should be the ones to teach sex education, parents can be biased in what they do or do not teach based on their own education and possible religious affiliation. I again believe that sex education should be a federally mandated requirement in ALL schools.

    Leaving it to parents is in my opinion placing to many children at risk.
     
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    None of these comments have anything to do with abortion.
     
  25. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I share my office with a Jew woman. And she holds two masters degrees including one in education.

    She no longer teaches children in school, but I asked her for her opinion on this issue. She told me that she taught up to 12th grade but at her school ,sex education was not part of the agenda.

    By the way, My first daughter was born when i was 27 so I apparently understood how girls get pregnant.
     

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