This 'impeachment inquiry' is going nowhere

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You got nothing, zilch, squat, zero, nada, as in nawdagawddamn thing.
     
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    Show me one document that proves Joe Biden committed a crime.

    CC's to hunter? So?

    Because that one doesn't prove squat.

    As for the time link, a summary:

    Newsflash: government leaders for decades have used aliases to avoid spam & hacking,” Ian Sams, a White House spokesman, wrote on Aug. 29 on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.

    During his time as Vice President, Joe Biden used multiple email addresses, including aliases like Robert Peters and JRB Ware, to prevent hackers and spammers from guessing his address and clogging his inbox. House Republicans are now requesting the National Archives to hand over more than 5,000 messages from Biden's vice presidency that relate to these email addresses. Biden's use of aliases is not uncommon among high-profile government officials for security reasons. The National Archives has retained thousands of emails connected to Biden's alternate email accounts. Republicans are looking for evidence of Biden's involvement in his son Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings. However, no evidence has been produced thus far.
     
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    The Benefits of Lying – with a Compliant Press

    We have a new Quinnipiac poll out today. No big surprises. About where the rest of recent polls have been: Biden 47%, Trump 46%. But it’s this paragraph down in the poll release that has my attention.

    Half of voters think Joe Biden was involved in Hunter Biden’s business dealings with China and Ukraine, while 40 percent think Joe Biden was not involved. Thirty-five percent of voters believe Joe Biden was involved and did something illegal, while 13 percent believe he was involved and did something unethical but nothing illegal, 1 percent believe he was involved but he did not do anything wrong, 11 percent did not offer an opinion, and 40 percent of voters believe Joe Biden was not involved.

    At the risk of stating the obvious, Republicans have produced no evidence whatsoever to show that President Biden was involved in any of his son’s business dealings and there’s quite a bit of contrary evidence. But by simply repeating the accusations often enough it shapes public opinion in clear and damaging ways.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-benefits-of-lying-with-a-compliant-press

    You know what they say about repeating a lie often enough.
     
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    Please tell us why the DOJ has not investigated this "reasonable suspicion" that Comer has uncovered so far.... can you tell us where the DOJ is with the "unheard of" 170 PLUS "suspicious activity reports" filled out by the many banks?

    You seem to be blind to this "reasonable suspicion" that Comer uncovered that would be more than enough to start a DOJ investigation ...... because no matter what Comer uncovers.... it has to be handed over to the DOJ so they can "not" do their job and "not" investigate to produce "evidence" that can be used in court...


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    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf

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    What did Joe Biden know and when did he know it..

    Show us the DOJ investigation into this money laundering... seems the DOJ missed it...

    Remember.... Comer can not prosecute.... he can only uncover "reasonable suspicion" which is the low bar needed to start an DOJ investigation. Per post #539...
    Nancy Mace nails it on the head... .
    ""The DOJ needs to get off its ass and investigate... we've done the work for them so they can not screw it up now

    Here is the memo
    Comer Reveals New Evidence in Biden Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/
    first memo
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Bank-Records-Memo-3.16.23.pdf
    second memo 36 page
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf

    This is an example of the reasonable suspicion "evidence" they uncovered that should have had the DOJ all over it

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    The least Joe should be impeached for is

    Show us the DOJ investigation into the treasonous act of trying to overthrow our government by Joe Biden and Obama in a failed coup attempt on a duly elected president in a failed insurrection.... Durham just uncovered was has been known for years.... without DOJ investigations ever happening...

    Where is the DOJ investigations into Obama, Biden, Hillary and all the people in the intel that played along... the Durham uncovered it again after years of it already being public?

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23813493/durham3.pdf

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    It requires a DOJ/FBI investigation.... where are the DOJ/FBI investigation....

    There is a "declassified" FBI FD-1023.... this is a FBI CHS.... with a FBI informant.....while the FBI was has sat on this document for several years.... then the FBI claimed never existed..... and then the FBI claimed it was so sensitive it could only be seen in a SCIF while the FBI has apparently leaked classified information to the news media....

    So where are the FBI investigation of the FBI document that "requires verification." came up with after sitting on it for years and Grassley/Comer uncovering to the public?

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fd_1023_obtained_by_senator_grassley_-_biden.pdf

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    They have no smoking gun as Prez, and his crimes as VP have expired, but with the predicate set by Trump's impeachment, you do not need proof. Just votes.
    The purpose is to get greater investigative powers to get the smoking gun, but as you saw with Trump at the end of the day, it is bare knuckle politics.
    They're just going to fart around with it as a hammer to use if they try to interfere with Trumps candidacy. You will know they are serious when they set the grand kids down under oath.
    The secondary target is Garland who sits a top a mountain of partisan obstruction and weaponization. So that truth will slither out during interviews with the receptors of unearned money.
    The political bet is that swing voters fear politically biased prosecutions.

    So as the sun rises in the east this will be the democrats answer to DoJ's targeting of their candidate.
    On the bright side, Trump has "The good "old days" on his side. Biden as an economic mess and a VP mess to explain, and a deep fake chatbot won't help him this time.
     
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    It has been repeatedly produced and met with your repeatedly simple dismissals followed by repeated denials and various strawman arguments which I have routinely refuted. I predict that if copied and pasted every instance it would be met with the same. I have asked you repeatedly to explain then what was the legitimate business in which the Biden's have declared they were engage and what prove of it you have. To prove me wrong as I know you are want to do. You have repeatedly copped out with your you don't have to prove them innocent of a crime. I guess that means you know they committed a crime and just don't want to admit it else there is no reason why you would not give such a simple innocent explanation if your assertion it was all perfectly innocent.
     
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    Let me guess the response will be but that is not evidence of anything and proves nothing.
     
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    Crime boss Joe Biden and the whole famn damily with the keys to an office they would all share with a Chinese spy. Of course who does not share Joe and uncle James cell phone numbers with a Chinese spy working for the Chinese government?

    Ye Jianming .... chairman of CEFC China's energy company... Hunter was was trying to get his family an office that was in with Gongwen Dong (Chairman Ye CEFC emissary) and Ye Jianming in the HOUSE OF SWEDEN
    and what better way to build Chinese government relation that to swap daddy Joe's phone number with a chinese spy

    https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-emails/email.php?id=20170921-122238_113913

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    yep... but it is the very "reasonable suspicion" need to start a DOJ investigation... which is the difference between Trump and Biden... DOJ investigations... the very people who produce the "evidence" that can be brought before the courts..

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    What did daddy Joe Biden know and when did he know it about what his family was doing with foreign countries while he was VP... Joe would have been updated on all of his son's activity, not ot protect the Biden family, but to protect the US Government and the messiah Obama...

    Here was Chuck Grassley's presentation about this very issue in 2022...

    Grassley also laid out the bank records to the Senate floor...2022.... Did the DOJ follow up with an investigation... (yea, the agency that investigates crimes)
    NOPE.

    https://archive.org/details/CSPAN_2...ey__Johnson_on_Hunter_Biden/start/180/end/240
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?519295-17/senators-grassley-johnson-hunter-biden
    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/remarks/the-biden-family-investigation_part-iii-james-biden


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    ""Show me one document that proves Joe Biden committed a crime. CC's to hunter?"

    First.... it is the DOJ's job to show you crimes committed by Joe Biden, so YOU please show us this investigation.

    But...... Here ya go.... Joe Biden using a pseudonym while conducting government business with the VP office with a CC to Hunter.... as you requested...

    Joe Biden ran from the press after House Oversight Chairman James Comer once again dropped a bombshell revealing Biden Crime Family corruption. Interesting.... the office of the VP Flynn sends the same email to Hunter and
    Robert.L.Peters.... Joe Biden's pseudonym... Hunter Biden CC’d on Email

    Looks like Joe was just pulling the same thing as his boss Obama was doing... Obama was using a pseudonym to communicate with Hillary's unsecured unauthorized server to do official business


    On May 27, 2016, the call took place. Joe Biden urged Poroshenko to reform Ukraine’s prosecutor general office, the establishment media reported.

    At the time, Burisma was under suspicion of money laundering and public corruption. Prosecutor Victor Shokin investigated the case before his termination by Poroshenko due to pressure applied by Joe Biden, who threatened to withhold $1 billion in U.S. aid from Ukraine if the Ukrainian government did not fire Shokin.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...oe-biden-about-call-with-ukrainian-president/

    https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-emails/email.php?id=20160526-220800_72156

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/joe-biden-jogs-avoid-reporters-after-comer-reveals/

    Yep..... Blinken and Robinware456@gmail.com..... oops, I mean VP Joe Biden using a pseudonym...
    was meddling in Ukraine in 2012....

    https://bidenlaptopreport.marcopolousa.org/report_viewer/index.html#p=141

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    Wrong:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump

    There was a vote in the House of Representatives on the impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump. The vote was on two articles of impeachment: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

    For the accusation of abuse of power:

    • Votes in favor: 230
    • Votes against: 197
    • Present: 1
    • Not voting: 3
    For the accusation of obstruction of Congress:

    • Votes in favor: 229
    • Votes against: 198
    • Present: 1
    • Not voting: 3
    The result for both accusations was approved.
     
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    ""Show me one document that proves Joe Biden committed a crime....CC's to hunter? ""

    Here is another ....as you requested....

    April 9, 2022......
    oooops... there is a pesky Robin Ware" robinware456@gmail.com pseudonyms that Joe Biden used ... for government favors...

    ""Before you fill position pls talk to me----- J. McGrail very much wants to serve as detail for treasury. ""

    Nothing like tapping your dad for a friend...
    Hunter Biden used dad’s pull to lobby for friends to get federal jobs, emails from laptop show

    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/mott-biden-hunter-laptop/2022/04/09/id/1065046/
    https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/hunter-biden-used-dad-joes-pull-to-get-friends-federal-jobs/

    https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-emails/email.php?id=20140623-145826_67374

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    The very last thing that republicans want is to go forward with any sort of impeachment against Joe Biden, for the following reasons:

    -They have NO evidence, or at least haven't come forward with any evidence.
    -They would no longer have control over the narrative as Democrats would have equal opportunity to call their own supporting witnesses against impeachment.
    -They DON'T have the votes.

    This is Benghazi 2.0, pure & simple. It's nothing but political theater. They will use impeachment to continue to lob political bombs at Joe Biden in the hopes of derailing his reelection. there will be nonstop "leaks" until November 24 and whatever happens in the election, the entire thing will disappear once the election is over, just like with HC. The end.
     
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    You need to prove Joe Biden committed an illegal act. You have not done that.

    As for Hunter, doing business abroad is NOT illegal. You accuse, YOU PROVE, I don't have to tell you squat.

    Presidents use pseudonymous emails all the time, it's proof of NOTHING.

    Newsflash: government leaders for decades have used aliases to avoid spam & hacking,” Ian Sams, a White House spokesman, wrote on Aug. 29 on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.

    From a Time article: (see Popscott's link, I don't have it off hand, but I wrote a summary)

    During his time as Vice President, Joe Biden used multiple email addresses, including aliases like Robert Peters and JRB Ware, to prevent hackers and spammers from guessing his address and clogging his inbox. House Republicans are now requesting the National Archives to hand over more than 5,000 messages from Biden's vice presidency that relate to these email addresses. Biden's use of aliases is not uncommon among high-profile government officials for security reasons. The National Archives has retained thousands of emails connected to Biden's alternate email accounts. Republicans are looking for evidence of Biden's involvement in his son Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings. However, no evidence has been produced thus far.

    Joe stated he had no knowledge of his son's business, but owing to a miscommunication, he likely meant 'the extensive details' which he had no knowledge of. He had to have had a cursory knowledge given that it was in the news a lot, But leave it to Republicans to exploit this in order to forward a dismal right wing agenda.

    But, of course,. you don't give a rat's ass about real corruption:

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/i-got-your-corruption-right-here.613537/
     
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    The hardest thing to swallow is a taste of your own medicine.
     
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    Whatever.

    But you don't give a hoot about real corruption:

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/i-got-your-corruption-right-here.613537/
     
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    ""Show me one document that proves Joe Biden committed a crime. CC's to hunter?'" ...... as you requested
    Well darn, darn, darn... they just keep on coming... what is the national security risk is it when the VP office office sends the high office member cell numbers to the VP (again using a pseudonym to hide his identity) and his dope head son??

    Please notice it was sent to Hunter and Robert.L.Peters@pci.gov (which is Joe's pseudonyms on e-mails) from the office of the vice president while he was still in office.

    National security nightmare of Hunter Biden's abandoned laptop containing phone numbers for the Clintons, Secret Service officers and most of the Obama cabinet plus his sex and drug addictions - all secured by the password Hunter02

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-security-nightmare-Hunter-Bidens-laptop.html

    https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-emails/email.php?id=20150607-133904_22008

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