Thoughts on the George Floyd protests

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  1. Par10

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    Police shooting white people is much higher than shooting black people. 370 to 235
    When you move to percentage of the racial population, of course black is much higher.
    Then again, when you take the percentage of police killed by blacks as a percentage of all cops, is that number also higher?
    Is this because they are black or is it because they are poor? Maybe a bit of both?

    This is an interesting case and I have a lot of questions.
    What happened between the time George was walking peacefully with the officer and then on the ground? Did the officer suddenly decide to throw him to the ground and put a knee to the neck or did George decide to do something to land himself on the ground?
    What does the black cop that was on the scene have to say about what happened?
    How do we know which autopsy was truthful and what is going to happen to the doctor who lied? One of them lied. Why isn't anyone talking about it?
    Why haven't the news guys asked these questions?

    Data source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
     
  2. Steve N

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    If the rioting, looting, arson and the beating of white people is supposed to make me feel sympathetic to the black cause, well it failed miserably. What I'm seeing here is blacks going all out savage because they think they're entitled to do it, and to a degree, the politicians letting them get away with their savagery has on emboldened them. Like the way blacks currently feel about white people, I'm not going to lose any sleep when blacks pay the price for this fiasco and I hope they pay big because we get more of what we tolerate.

    Blacks and the left want us to get all bent out of shape when a cop does something to a black criminal, and because of a few incidents, they label all cops as being bad along with many white people. Well, we're watching videos on a nightly basis of blacks acting like primitive animals, and if just a few bad cops or unfortunate instances can make blacks riot, loot and commit arson, then shouldn't those thousands of acts of violence make me feel the same way about blacks as blacks feel about cops/whites?

    I'm quickly losing my sympathy for blacks, individually they can be fine people, but the rioting, looting, arson and attacks on white people has soured me to the point where I feel whatever it is they're trying to achieve has backfired. In the end we know what many of them were trying to achieve, and that's free stuff by looting and attacking white people out of pure racist hatred.
     
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    Believe it or not, the rancid, rotten bastards broke into an ophthalmologists office and trashed the place in LA.
     
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    Those proposed solutions to crime do not work.
     
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    Be specific?
     
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    No I'm talking to you. I'm not avoiding anything and who would I not carry water for exactly? What alt-right blather, what on earth are you talking about? Provide me the list, I bet 99% are officers fully justified and exonerated by the courts. The reading audience can see the absurdity of your argument. Black America needs to wake up and confront the violence of their culture.
     
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    With all the turd polishing about trump's deplorable response to the demonstrations, it's nice to see that even some evangelicals are finally tired of this disgusting maggot. At the rate he's shedding support, they may even dump him from the ticket for the election.


    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...ts-trump-for-his-protest-response/ar-BB14WzSN
     
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    You are correct. Any adult with a sense of responsibility knows that when you let misbehavior go without any consequence whatsoever, it is usually repeated.

    And when misbehavior continues, it often results in a more escalated version of the first infraction.

    So is there any reason not to believe that those who are damaging property and stealing, are much more likely to become involved with police in confrontations down the road? Only to repeat the cycle?
     
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    The Black Leadership is only interested in the response to the violence. Not the violence itself. And only if it involves law enforcement.

    82 were shot in Chicago last weekend. 19 of those died from their wounds. All Black on Black. The MSM said nothing about this.

    The Democrats have become experts at knowing exactly what buttons to push and when.

    The, "Culture," will not change.
     
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    Made no sense that they were releasing criminals and arresting law abiding citizens at the time. Now it makes perfect sense.
     
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    Like you ever had it.
     
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    Rubbish, the Marxists only care about black lives when they can blame it on whites. There are right now millions of blacks on the brink of starvation in South Africa because a black corrupt government stole trillions from their own people... not a single protest because it's not white peoples fault
     
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    your stats don't show how many of those white folk were innocent of any crime or were victims of excessive force for essentially misdemeanors.
    please provide the stats where black folk killing cops is "higher"....and then show are you talking about criminals as opposed to innocent people doing that crime.
    The cops cameras were off during the initial arrest....they were called because Floyd allegedly passed a phony $20.
    All cops involved were indicted....what they saw or did will come out in a trial.
    The initial autopsy alleges that preconditioned contributed to Floyd's death. The second autopsy concludes that 8 minutes of lack of oxygen was the main cause, and his preconditions were not chronic to cause premature death due to restraint.

    The "news guys" covered this....depends on which news guys you listen to, and for how long.
     
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    And no one is saying that nonsense...well, black folk are not any way. What we are saying is that you have documented incidences for that last 30 years were innocent/innocent of the crime accused black folk are beaten down or killed by cops...and no cops go to jail for it. In the same time frame, white mass murderers and deadly biker shoot outs do NOT result in dead perps in police custody.

    Hell, 40 years ago Richard Pryor did a routine based on similar circumstances. Some things never change.
     
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    Baloney! Documented cased of cops killing innocent black folk for the last 30 years, yet no cops go to jail.....that doesn't happen for mass murders or killer bikers who happen to be white, now does it.

    Spare us this bogus dodge to S. Africa....when the DeBeers family are totally ousted and all that wealth is truly in the people's hands, let me know.
     
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    WRONG.

    Blacks are constantly claiming that just by walking down the street, or taking a jog, etc they are likely to be killed by a police officer or white person. These are false narratives.

    The white people taken into police custody are either shot and happen to survive, or they surrender. That argument is genuinely dumb.
     
  17. kungfuliberal

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    Your revisionism is astounding. 1. All cops involved have now been indicted. What will happen at trial is to be seen, as to date past incidences of cops killing innocent black folk NEVER results in jail time.

    Atty. Barr has pointed the finger directly at "anti-fa" time agitators infiltrating peaceful protestors. You've documentation of protestors attaining violent folk for the cops, of them defending cops....No one but YOU is pointing the finger of early released prisoners...of which you have no proof thereof. So this "deep state, international communism" conspiracy of yours is false....just deal with the raw facts of congenital racism in the USA.
     
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    The same blue state politicians who had everyone locked down in their homes until last week are now encouraging mass protests with people packed tightly together in public.

    WTF?
     
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    The protester's stats don't show how many black folk were innocent of any crime either nor have they shown stats showing excess force for misdemeanors. That doesn't stop them from assuming. Why are assumptions only allowed one way? I have watched and read many news stories and none have asked the question about how he ended up on the ground. Why have they not mentioned that one of the cops was black? It doesn't matter to me but it sure as hell seems to matter that one is white.

    Personally, I hate the excessive use of force that the police use on a regular basis and I think that a lot of cops are dicks. But I'm also not going to assume that George was Mr. Rogers either when it's clear that he most definitely was not. You did not answer the question regarding the autopsy. You simply reported what I already said. Is there going to be a third one or do we make more assumptions?
     
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    :roflol: all the wealth is in the people's hands.... too funny trillions of Rands have been stolen by the ANC and millions are starving... come on... time for you to help these people... protest against the communist thieves who did this to their own people.

    "I'm starving now": World faces unprecedented hunger crisis amid coronavirus pandemic

     
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    You know this is so typical... it's ra ra ra white people but when blacks kill millions of their own you're silent. Hypocrisy and fake concern for blacks that is what you have.
     
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    As long as African Americans are disproportionately involved in violent crime then violent confrontations with law enforcement will always occur. No conceivable reform of the police will ever change that dynamic.
     
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    Are you black?
     
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    Does the skin color of someone lend credence to their argument?
     
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    1. Then you obviously are i in denial of the events in the link, because there was NO violence in that particular protest/demonstration under that sheriff's watch and due to his actions. Keeping the peace and upholding citizen's rights is part of the job. If you have proof to the contrary, produce it.
    2. Sitting on a suspect in custody's neck for 8 minutes until he is unresponsive is not debatable, it's recorded.
    3. Video shows one officer standing in front of the citizen recording the event NOT trying to intervene physically or verbally in his partner's lethal actions. If you have a video to the contrary, produce it.
    4. What's to "debate"....you show up in front of a municipal building ARMED and demanding a change in the law, with exaggerated claims of oppression. That is a threat. If it were BLM folk doing so during a demonstration or protest, would you claim "debatable"?
    5. Oh, so as long as they are white, it's alright by you. Yet, I recall folk with your similar mindset screaming bloody murder about the "threat" of BLM protests/demonstrations, although none were doing open carry with pistols or rifles. A bit hypocritical, that.
    6 - 7. And yet to date NONE of those perpetrators have been physically abused or died in police custody or during arrest. Annually. Interesting, n'est-ce' pa?
     

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