Thoughts on the George Floyd protests

I have never seen a predominately black community that wasn’t a ghetto.

 

You REALLY SHOULD READ CAREFULLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY ALL THE MATERIAL YOUR REFERENCE. From your link to the Rolling Stone:

Defunding the police does not mean stripping a department entirely of its budget, or abolishing it altogether. It’s just about scaling police budgets back and reallocating those resources to other agencies, says Lynda Garcia, policing campaign director at the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. “A lot of what we advocate for is investment in community services — education, medical access… You can call it ‘defunding,’ but it’s just about directing or balancing the budget in a different way.”

Hope this clears things up for you.

 

There's not a group going around screaming at the top of their lungs claiming racism about whites being killed by non whites. So of course nobody brings it up.

When you create the narrative that whites are the problem despite it being proven to be untrue, don't be surprised because it will always be thrown back at you.

 

1. Apexofpurple cannot logically or factually refute or disprove what was stated, so he blows smoke.
2. For 8 minutes? Until the suspect is unconscious/unresponsive? Here's the debate https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...aint-allowed-minneapolis-can-kill/5274334002/
3. Stating the obvious does not in any way detract from or disprove what I previously stated....or what is in response #2 here.
4. Visual documentation coupled with audio and statements from the participants to the press. NOT perception, but a (thinly) veiled threat....unless you have rose colored glasses on. You typically avoid my point....folk of a similar thought process like yours screamed bloody murder that BLM protest were a "threat"...no guns, no stated threats of violence, but still a threat. Talk about double standards!
5. Spare me your false sensitivity. I didn't make the gun toting yahoos white.....they were born that way! Again, you avoid a simple question and blow smoke.
6-7. Ummm, you've heard of the NEWS, right? Now for years you've got all sorts screaming about liberal bias, persecution by the gov't, etc., etc. So if as you allude to, if there were abuses by police on par as to what's been happening to black folk, you actually think that the internet with all it's right wing, alt-right guff floating around would let it slide, as they wail about even the slightest perception of gov't suppression or minority bias? Come, come, my good man...get real. Folk are still carping about Waco and Ruby Ridge! And of course, you toot the same revisionist, non provable, willfully ignorant clap trap. I provide proof of what I say. You can't. End of story.

 

Typical dodge by the alt right wonks....when they make a statement that is logically and factually disproven....they just duck down another alley with the goal post.

Be an adult and deal with the subject of the OP. If you can't disprove my last response, deal with it, admit it. Then create another thread about South Africa, and I and others will gladly engage you.

 

So you think it is acceptable for thug cops to murder black people?

 

Minneapolis is what happens when the elite won't control its Slave Patrol.

 

Stop lying.....the chronology of the posts clearly shows how I factually deconstructed your assertions. You made a statement regarding liberal bias in the media in not revealing the race of one of the cops involved in Floyd's death. I asked if that was the case, how do YOU know he was black? Clearly, you are just blowing smoke, as this link clearly shows. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/03/3-m...th-other-officers-murder-charge-upgraded.html

If YOU watched the video, so did the rest of America via their local network affiliate. So much for your conspiracy.

You lie about my changing the subject, as the chronology of the post clearly shows I respond point for point. Now you throw out some stupidity about "cops kill more whites than blacks". Now, all you have to do is just show how many whites innocent of a crime or just under suspicion for a misdemeanor are killed by cops using unnecessary and/or deadly force. Then compare that to what's going on with black folk. I'll wait.

 

I presented data and said that cops kill more whites than blacks.
Now you want me to mine that data and find out how many were innocent when you know that the data doesn't exist. (how could it)

If you want to know those numbers, then you do the work and present your data just as I did. If not, ****. I'm not going to argue with you without data. Mainly because you wouldn't accept it if it were to be given to you on a silver platter. The claim by the left is that there is a systemic racist problem with our police forces. Prove it.

 

You are projecting. You simply aren’t arguing your point as effectively as you wish to believe.

 

Why do you think it is acceptable for thug cops to kill anyone when most States do not have the death penalty for the worst of crimes? Only an idiot would think it is OK for a thug cop to kill someone for "resisting arrest" (wiggling while being handcuffed).

 

Uhg, did you re-read what you asked? Because here is why I said "Think you got your negatives reversed on this one" Here I'll put the exchange together so its easier to see.

You: "Are you saying the sheriff in the OP video is not upholding his oath and did not maintain law and order?"

Me: "No."

<---as in "no" that is not what I'm saying, a linear response to the question, not "no hes not upholding ...." as what would have been a confusing lateral response which I'm guessing is how you took it seeing as how you then responded with --->

You: "Then you obviously are i in denial of the events in the link, because there was NO violence in that particular protest/demonstration under that sheriff's watch and due to his actions. Keeping the peace and upholding citizen's rights is part of the job. If you have proof to the contrary, produce it."​

And I'm sorry but the rest of your comments went off on some pretty irate tangents and I honestly just lost interest. :\ We'll try again some other time.

 

I am not surprised you haven't, it doesn't fit the narrative if you had.

 

Nobody has to, because the Justice System works in your favor.

When was that proven? What year? What week? What day?

 

1. The Justice System has nothing to do with what we were talking about. This is just you completely unable to respond.

2. Really? How many times does the data have to be thrown around regarding who's killing blacks? We all know you avoid responding to it every time it's posted.

 

The thread title is Thoughts on George Floyd protest" how is my thoughts on this topic a dodge don't worry... of course you have NOTHING TO SAY about this vvv what exactly can you say other than hypocrite & fake

 

Get back to us when you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that there is a history just in the last 25 years of white folk being killed by cops unjustly or unreasonably like we've seen with black folk. Until then, you're blowing smoke.

 

Post wasn't about cops.

Also, the data has been posted time and time again on here. If you still ignore it, that's you willingly choosing to be ignorant so you can feel good about your agenda.

 

Your data does NOT show what I am asking. Since whites are in the majority of the USA population, it stands to reason that they would have a higher number here and there on statistics. Your data is essentially generic to the OP topic at hand.

As you readily admit, there is no data to support what your assertion that black folk have NOT been unjustly killed by police for YEARS, because more white folk are generally killed by cops. To press the point; we're talking about unnecessary, unwarranted deadly force against people innocent of any wrong doing or guilty of lower rate misdemeanors at best.

What's laughable is how you deftly admit you can't back what you claim...but you want me to do your homework. Then, to add insult to injury, you demand proof of systemic racism in the police forces of America. Well, hope springs eternal in education. Here are some primers for you:

https://www.vibe.com/2014/12/naacp-legal-defense-fund-unarmed-blacks-killed-by-police

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...cism-police-evidence-criminal-justice-system/

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

 

Again, the chronology of the posts makes catches you telling a big fib. If this is all you've got, I won't waste responding to you further.

 

My response to number 1 essentially removes a key support of your entire argument...because if the sheriff actions were righteous and proper, then your kvetching is pointless. The rest of your "debatable" drivel was deconstructed thoroughly. So next time you mental comfort zone about racism in America is disturbed, don't come here with this BS. Find some alt-right site that will welcome your side ways like mindedness.

 

I responded properly to YOUR post on this thread regarding the OP....tough cookies if you can't put up the goods. Here's how I educated a like minded brethren of yours http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-floyd-protests.573256/page-6#post-1071772855

 

To answer your question.....you are talking about South Africa....NOT the Floyd protests

South Africa.....George Floyd in America. Got it now? So when you're willing to discuss the later, let us all know.

 

You need to get out more, son.

 

ModCon said: ↑
How about black men killing other black men? Statistically it's BY FAR a greater issue. Or how about the disparity in crime and violence of black on white vs. white on black?

How do you possibly make that leap in logic, what is the connect here?