Three Cheers for Donald Trump

The Trump movement is bringing attention to the needs of the bottom half, who have been sucked dry and spit aside like squeezed oranges. Do you really expect people with an IQ under 100 to become engineers?

Your post reveals ignorance of the reality of the normal curve.

http://www.statisticbrain.com/iq-estimates-by-intended-college-major/

http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2011/01/average-iq-by-occupation-estimated-from.html

 

You should ask the neo-nazis and other white supremacists endorsing and supporting Trump, hailing him as their leader.

I am sure that they would be eager to tell you what he espouses that provokes their fierce allegiance.

 

I readily accept your attribution. Thank you for the clarification. Both quotes regarding Trump have now been credibly sourced.

 

That makes no sense at all.

Take a look at what Trump is doing and saying.

This administration is going toward Goldman Sachs. It's going to Mnuchin who made his fame and fortune from foreclosing on middle America and retirees. It's going to those who want less protection for those in Flint and other places where they drink water laced with chemicals that destroy their kids' brains. It's going towards those intent on further destroying the only bargaining mechanism workers have - unions.

If you said that rust belt workers are suffering from slow growth in employment and American wages have been too stagnant, I could accept that and we could discuss what to do about it.

But, the truth is that the feel-good rhetoric from this administration doesn't address this issue at all. And, the Clinton policy direction is truthful, but requires real work and wasn't adequately communicated.

 

I understand that Trump had a lot of attraction for people who had lost their jobs through no fault of their own, and also people who were working at low-wage jobs because that was all that was available.

I also understand that Trump is an expert at using his voice to put forth persuasive arguments. The way he modulates his voice is almost seductive.

But if you were paying attention during the campaign, it should have been very clear what kind of man he is. He's an egotistical, arrogant, self-centered bully.

 

Those concerns have been repeatedly addressed in other posts in this Forum. Of course these specialists will tend to oppose and betray Trump, but it is possible many of them realize America's industry and tech cannot be exported forever and that it is really time to take a new approach before the country is completely bled dry...there would be no profit in that, even for them.

More particularly, however--I was addressing this:


Quote Originally Posted by Ph3iron
Says his sheep, 75% never went to college, 75% believe Obamas a Muslim. Say no more . Easy, get a plastics engineering degree and start at $90k at 23 like my neice

It is ridiculous to plan an economy which assumes the entire population has at least a 100 IQ, but this is what has been occurring.

 

And you don't think we have an elite which, consciously or unconsciously, has those characteristics?

Just how does one convey a disliked truth to such a crowd?

Trump is going up against a privileged segment of the population that is just fine with provoking rebellions and gun running as long as their stock values go up. He is confronting a crowd that believes in tearing down other societies so they can go in and "rebuild" them at massive profits. He is fighting a crowd that believes it is just fine to start wars over where oil and gas pipes will go and who can then profit from them.

You want this man to lower his voice and be polite to a crowd that has been actively destroying the stability and security of the US so they can make maximum short term profits, with no regard for the future? That believes in externalizing the costs of all the damages they do? That believes it is OK to poison impoverished people in third world countries willing to work with dangerous substances at cheap wages?

This is the same crowd that puts "death genes" into GMO seed crops so they can be made more profitable, and that formerly encouraged third-world parents to use contaminated puddle water to reconstitute the baby formulas they were peddling.

Sorry; these people do not deserve politeness--and they have been using it to hide behind for too long. Trump is calling them out like the despicable rats they are, and they deserve every bit of it.

 

Well, we don't have a planned economy.

The catch here is that America's competitive future isn't going to be based on manufacturing. Other nations have caught up with us on that.

Our future IS going to be continuing toward higher tech.

Today, there are open manufacturing jobs, but the corporations offering these jobs tend to require college education. They need people who can design, build and operate automated shops.

Obviously, not everyone is going to go to college - they may not be cut out for that. But, we can't be blocking people from that direction simply on the grounds that their parents aren't rich.

Plus, we need vocational education as well - both as a track beyond high school, perhaps including internships and apprenticeships, and as continuing education/training to ensure workers can keep up with the industries they have chosen. We can't let people get left behind like they have been in the rust belt, for example.


As for the example, let's remember that the $90K per year is going to be taxed, and that there is a return for America to have that person get that degree. That return is the taxes as well as the lower paid jobs available since someone is doing that engineering.

Today, our colleges can't handle the number of people who want to get an education in engineering. That is a huge mistake America is making today.


What is Trump doing about this problem?

 

Trump has stacked his cabinet with billionaires and privileged elites whose main concern is advancing the GOP and helping the industries that are laying waste to the environment.

If you voted for him, you've been suckered.

 

Trump, thus far, as done everything he said he was going to do as a candidate for president. Who he has in his cabinet is not relevant.

 

You are ignoring Goldman Sachs, Mnuchin, the choice of a labor secretary who has literally stated that he hates employees and wants to see them replaced by robots, and the support for destroying collective bargaining - the only remaining defense of labor in America.

You claim concern for health, but accept an administration that seeks to destroy the EPA? Then, you complain about GMO seed crops, where there is no evidence of harm to humans - even as childrens' brains are destroyed in Flint and other places that the EPA is blocked from addressing?

And, yes, Trump needs to lower his voice and work toward consistent policy that can stand the test of time, rather than popping off with ill advised and nearly always controverted tweets and attacking individuals, individual companies, and our national allies, while being cozy with Russia, who assaulted our democracy with hacking and fake news.

 

your post is bull pucky. he is filling the swamp with his cabinet picks

 

Irrelevant.

As we have already demonstrated, all that matters is what Trump believes; not the people behind him.

 

He is telegraphing what is going on to his supporters--and he is going to need them to be on top of what is occurring.

 

I don't know what "telegraphing" means in this case.

I think he is actually doing it, not "telegraphing".

He didn't choose his SecLabor to "telegraph".

He didn't choose the head of the EPA to "telegraph".

He didn't pick a central figure from the "alt right" as his chief advisor to "telegraph".

 

I only wonder how anyone who imagines themselves to be intelligent or open minded can speak in such ridiculous absolutes. There are many shades of gray, (not referring to the book) which is why it is oft repeated when debating legislation that "the devil is in the details".

EPA? I consider myself a tree-hugger. I choose to live and recreate in a forest. I'm all about clean water, pure resources, healthy air. I would never imagine that some suited guy is sitting behind their mahogany paneled door evilly plotting to make the water foul for all mankind.

My response to a tangent such as the one you posted, is that you should lay off the Dr. Victor Von Doom comics. Read more of something else.

 

Some estimates are that Trump has saved or created more jobs in a few weeks than Obama did in his entire term. Major companies like Carrier, Ford, Softbank, US Steel, and Alibaba have all pledged to collectively bring over more than a million jobs back to the United States. Nothing wrong with admiring Obama; but as you obviously hate Trump, you don't really want to hear that fact... it causes cognitive dissonance.

What steps are required to bring back manufacturing jobs where there are no factories. Think it through.

 

NOBODY thinks our water quality, etc., suffer because someone is plotting against us.

Nobody had it as their objective to damage the brains of kids in Flint, or to make it so rivers could catch fire.

However, we know without the force of law, decision makers will continue to ignore these side affects, because capitalism encourages (even requires) that they be ignored.

And, we know that, because we tried having no such laws and not having anyone watching.

 

Cite please.

 

Wow. Trump was held up in Congress for weeks over his Dept of Education pick and you can ask that?

Despite the numerous fake fires the "Progressive" Marxists have been placing in his path, Trump is doing just fine, and I am certain if you phrase your question clearly enough he will get to the issue in due course.

 

Read your own last paragraph.

 

But what do you have to say about the $800 Billion for infrastructure in the last presidency? Wasn't Flint water a PREDICTED risk in 2011? Wasn't the current weakness in California's Oroville Dam a previously DOCUMENTED hazzard in 2005? Why did we get so many freeway statues and traffic circles instead of truly important work done to our roads, bridges and utility systems?

We had the ways and means - we didn't have the leadership.

Just because an Environmental Protection Agency is established, doesn't mean they are effective and smart.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/01/12/epa-stayed-silent-flints-tainted-water/78719620/
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2017/02/how-did-the-oroville-dam-get-so-bad/516429/
For this one you have to hold your nose to get through CNN's partisan reporting: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/16/politics/navajo-lawsuit-epa-animas-river/

 

Google it.

 

You aren't making any sense here. None of these is a justification for destroying the EPA, for example.

As it turns out, the Flint problem was exacerbated by the EPA not having the authority to step in.

And, now YOU want to use that as a reason for ending the EPA? Sorry, that just doesn't make sense.

Plsu, the fact that we need more infrastructure develop is not altered by evidence that $800B wasn't enough. That's just sloppy logic.

 

Your post was a joke, so obviously you can't cite anything.

Sorry for even asking.