To avoid the civil war, let's divide France

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  1. Fenton Lum

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    Multiculturalism then "only works" in colonization wherein one "culture" totally dominates another "culture" for its own purposes. Interesting.
     
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    In america? Depends upon who they are.

    • Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
    • Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
    • Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan
    Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

    The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

    Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

    The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.
     
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    I covered the colonial era.

    I'm just condemning their behavior of ethnic cleansing around.
    Not hearing them objecting that Israel does that for the sake of making a Jew homeland.
    Kind of like you refuse to condemn it, and rant petty personal attacks instead.
     
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    I make it sound you do hate jews. I'm just saying that you complain a lot when people blame all muslims for bombing, but you love blame all christian and jews for the acts of their grandfather or leaders.

    Yes and your prophet commited a genocide on a jewish tribe. I don't support the politic of Israel, but I classify that in the huge case of "not my problem". Anyway, you can blame the jews aslong you want while you support a genocider, that doesn't explain why muslims harass women in France, why Muhammed Merah shot in the head a 4 YO jew in France, why teens are slaughtered by muslims in France. You will claim that they don't know what they do, the real villain are the mean jew and christian you hate so much (but Muhammed was right to commit a genocide on the banu qurayzan, applying collective responsibility you call a war crime, do you think that your prophet is a war criminal ?).

    That's an explanation. But it doesn't explain why vietnamese people don't act so, why Guadelupean, Haitian or Martnique people who suffered slavery from the ancestors of french people don't act so.

    I have a more probable and more simple reason :
    They do that because their sacred texts support it. Islam is with the cartels, the poltical and financial elite and communism one of the four main source of evilness in this world.
     
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    Yeah, just like Islam. Multiculturalism works well in Sharia - providing that Muslims run the show, infidels pay their "jyyza tax" and don't raise their heads too much. Only then all can live happily ever after.
     
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    Why, we just had a nice muslim family move in next door, and I do declare, the entire county was under Sharia [shudder] law by sunrise. Mail me some bacon?
     
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    That happened too during colonial era. Russian, polish, italian came during the colonial era, spanish too.

    And do you condemn when your prophet expulsed jews and christian from the arabic peninsula ? Do you condemn when your prophet made split the throat of 600 men of the banu qurayzan and sold their children and wive into slavery ?

    And I said to you. I don't care of what happens in Israel. That's dramatic, but none of the problem we have authority on.
     
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    every nation has it dominate majority culture and being an invited guest you should see fit and respectful to adapt to that culture

    when you enter an Asian home and they ask for you to take off your shoes because that is their culture you don't disrespect them and say that isn't my culture so no I wont take off my shoes
     
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    Well Muslims march around with not in my name all the time.
    You can't say the Jews do the same thing.
    You can go from there.

    For trying to betray Mohammed. And they got sentenced according to their Jewish laws they broke. So no harm there.
    But if you go there... I mean. What about the Jews who had Jesus killed? Marvelous people.

    I don't see you arguing why my viewpoint of judging them by their actions is wrong.
    Says a lot you refuse to judge people by their actions. Rather racist of you.
     
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    Segregation is NOT the answer. It would just create FAR more problems then it would solve.
    The solution is total and complete integration...not segregation.

    The main problem in France is most of the Muslim's are immigrants/descended from recent immigrants from French colonial times. And most of them arrived dirt poor. Poor people tend to commit by far the most violent crimes.
    Plus, the French have stuffed them - for the most part - into crowded, largely government-built communities.
    The solution is obvious...stop stuffing them into slums. Treat them as all French are treated. Give them no special treatments either negative or positive.
    Government housing is almost always a well-intentioned disaster as it just leads to slums with huge crime rates.
    The answer is Regional government centers where everyone who needs food/shelter/basic medical can 'flop' with cots, kitchens and access to basic healthcare - all available under one, big roof.
    No apartments, no welfare checks...just give everyone who needs it a cot, food and access to a doctor. And NO segregation. Everyone in the region goes to ONE SHELTER.
    The government would save TONS of money, everyone has shelter, plenty of food/medical/dental and no one is favored over another.
    Every 'race' or religion is treated equally and if they want more out of life, they will have to go out and earn it.
     
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    Good to know, I don't l don't want your shoes off either.
     
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    Source?

    Those Jews were sentences according to their own Jewish laws they breached.
    But here you go and blame the victim of the crimes of those Jews, that Jews got sentenced.
    Racist much?
     
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    Their is 1,2 billion muslim, 12 millions jews on earth...

    And got punished collectively. You call that a war crime, so your prophet is a war criminal.

    No harm ? That's still a genocide. You can find tons of excuse, a genocide is still a genocide. Muhammed could easily have said "we won't kill them and I will lighten the sentence". Or they could have free the slaves then. But Muhammed didn't, because Muhammed is a war criminal and a genocider.

    I don't care.

    You seems to justify the action of muslims killing other people by that fact.

    Don't you dare to insult me.
     
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    The main problem in France is most of the Muslim's are immigrants/descended from recent immigrants from French colonial times.

    Just like america as it pertains to black folks, "Indians" and Mexicans.
     
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    Certainly less than you.
     
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    Source just open a damn history book.

    Oh poor Muhammed he had to split the throat of 600 jews. What a victim. He tried to make pay the jizya to christians and jews and they were unhappy, what kind of traitors !
    Nothing justify a genocide.
     
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    Many of the bombing terrorists in Europe were second or third generation immigrants - children of those peaceful Muslims you are referring to.
    Does this tell you anything?
     
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    ...and Europeans.
     
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    Even if you divided France into moslem/non-moslem it would make no difference. You're just delaying the inevitable. The moslems would build their sector into an anti Western theocracy and use that platform to destroy France and the rest of Europe. Moslems are a cancer on the world and they will destroy the world unless they are destroyed first.
     
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    What it tells me is that I am an american and the French are in charge of France, not americans.
     
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    No, the euros are the invaders.
     
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    God I love a good global genocide.
     
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    Well, then as an American you have no say in the dealings of Europeans.
    And as an European I have the right and duty to defend myself, generally speaking, by opposing the plague of Islam.
     
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    Yes of course, and you're doing that here all afternoon, this defending.
     
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    Why thank you, we finally agreed on something. :) Good night.
     

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