Transcript of George Floyd's murder prove that he was cooperating

The problem with making it only training the cops is that you will encourage people to resist because they know they can get away with little or no danger.

I am not opposed to more training of law enforcement, but by itself, it will not solve the problem.

Rather than a national campaign that all but encourages resistance, how about a national campaign that encourages not resisting.

 

There is nothing "reasonable" about starting a fight with the police, stealing their weapon, running away, and attempting to use said weapon on the police. That guy got exactly what he had coming. It's downright amazing the mental gymnastics and logical pretzels you guys will pull when there's even a sniff in the air of a problematic white on black cop shooting.

 

The only thing that matters is are they legal, you don't get to decide "well that's unreasonable you can't arrest me" and nothing illegal or unreasonable at Wendy's any so you point is totally specious anyway.

 

They don't even need a "sniff".

 

That is nonsense. Resisting arrest is illegal.

Definitely not. But it's a step towards mitigating institutional racism. The proposals of the "Defund The Police" movement are also necessary. You will never solve over 200 years of abuse with just one solution. It will take many years.

One more time: they don't resist arrest. They are in panic because they are terrified of being shot or killed. And rightfully so.

 

You forgot one thing: killing the guy who does those things. What you mention is not reasonable but of little consequence. Killing a person is of great consequence. But some cops do it in... such a matter-of-fact kind of way...

And it's the cops who we pay to be reasonable. We don't pay the drunk guy to be reasonable.

That just has to stop... period! If "Defund the police" helps stop it, that's the way to go....

 

You can put a reason on it, but it is still resisting arrest.

Defund the police. Train them better. Recruit better qualified people. Do you see anything wrong with that picture?

 

No! The only thing that matters is that a guy who didn't deserve to die is dead! And that the death could have been avoided if not by the incompetence (based on institutional racism) of the cop.

You don't get to decide that a human being deserves to die! We have too many "god" egos with a gun and a badge running around in the streets.

 

And, if he hadn't resisted.

 

And it's still murder.

Yes. Cops are not qualified to handle most of these situations.

 

That would not have happened had he not resisted.

I am still waiting to hear how you do all this:

 

He didn't. He acted instinctively to try to save his life. Panic is an instinct. Sure, when you're relaxing in your easy chair next to the pool with your laptop while zipping a Margarita, it's easy to wonder why he couldn't control his instincts. But it's not the same as resisting arrest.

 

Look up "Defund the Police". Not on wingnut sites, though. There are several threads on the topic too. This is not one of them.

 

This is just off the wall excuses for letting authority have no limits!

I think there were a number of the most harsh regimes in the world would not seriously try to argue that "having little or no risk of danger" is still a good reason to kill a citizen!

These Righties are the same people who argue that there is a right to prepare unlimited weapons and to execute the populace if their election doesn't go the way they wish!!

I am not opposed to more training of law enforcement, but by itself, it will not solve the problem.

Rather than a national campaign that all but encourages resistance, how about a national campaign that encourages not resisting.

 

When you resist getting in the patrol car, you are resisting no matter the reason. It is setting up for a confrontation which can easily escalate into something worse.

I don't care how you phrase it, defunding means reducing or eliminating the funding. It is physically impossible to increase the training and recruit a better quality recruit with less funding. You can include recruits of another discipline, but when you do that your are reducing the number of law enforcement officers which have to make arrests. All of that costs more money, not less.

You want more crime, defunding will do it.

 

George Floyd had advanced cardiovascular disease. With such an affliction, something as seemingly benign as a cup of coffee or a cigarette can cause a serious reaction. Much less running up ten flights of stairs which is probably the equivalent of the physical exertion necessary to prevent two adult male Officers from putting him in the rear seat of the cruiser, which he did. Floyds blood tests showed he had caffeine(stimulant), nicotine(stimulant), THC(depressant), pseudoephedrine(stimulant), hydocodone(opiate, depressant), morphine(powerful opiate, depressant), fentanyl(very powerful opiate, depressant), and methamphetamine(very powerful stimulant) in his system. And he was in the latter stages of covid19 infection.

 

With comments like that, it is impossible to take you seriously.

 

It might not matter to you. But to black folks the reason does matter. And they are not going to rest until that reason is fixed.

 

How do you arrest someone if they resist arrest? Or somehow, are the police going avoid arresting black people? Exactly how is this supposed to work?

 

This is just ridiculous!

Cutting blood flow to a victim for more than FOUR times that MAXIMUM time even the most cruel abuser can reduce DEATH for even very healthy individuals is insane! Psychotic would be the proper description for this officer, no matter how many inane excuses the people who try to justify this murder.

Its OK, though, no matter how much teaching and evaluation a psychotic doc may slip through the cracks of police professionals, that can happen, although this wasn't the first time this cop had demonstrated his unsuitability for being a police officer.

What is the PROBLEM is the bystanding cops watched this psycho cop had done enough to MURDER the suspect and did NOTHING, and have LIED multiple times afterwards (which seems to be all too often routine in these cases!).

This is why our society is sick, not the psychos behavior, its the supposedly "good cops" (and any other citizen fails to act or act honorably in positions of authority) who stand to the side and watch.

 

The first step is that an designated authority can articulate WHY the authority is depriving a citizen of his or her rights!

Our Right Wing citizens claim they themselves have a right to have deadly force in their holsters or bat pocket and police should be steer clear and not do anything, but a minority can be sitting in the park, show that he is unarmed, with no warrants or drugs or whatever, and the cops demand anything of a citizen with no any (honest) reason. And get killed, unarmed.

 

I have seen those "tapes", who are you Nixon?, and yes, you are assuming.

 

Yeah, it is funny (but not) when some of these white guys or Karen's or Ken's actually do get even the slightest inconvenience from police or authorties or the grocery store clerk says " no mask, no enter" and oh, God, these losers act like their sold their first born because they demand their right to buy their candy bar IN PERSON, the store can't buy it and bring it out to their Ken! Its WW3!

 

Are you advocating that the police not arrest anyone?

Again, it is hard to take you seriously.

 

Nope I didn't I commented on how your post read, learn Golem, and you try to hard ..