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Trump administration blocks testimony of Gordon Sondland

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Oct 8, 2019.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/08/tru...tifying-in-impeachment-probe-lawyer-says.html

    This puts Don a step closer to having obstruction of a congressional investigation, one of the articles in the Nixon impeachment, added to the list of his impeachment. Sondland was the guy who spoke to Sen. Johnson (did anyone see his meltdown on MTP?) about the quid pro quo arrangement with Ukraine.

    This stonewalling has been going on for weeks. It's just another aspect of Billy the Bagman enabling Trump's lawlessness.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Sondland's testimony was exculpatory for Don wouldn't he want Sondland to tell everything he knows to the House committees?
     
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    What's another 'obstruction' for donald?
     
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    If the democrats really want to force the WH to comply, they need to hold a full house vote on the investigation.
     
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    And your claim is that the WH would comply if only Impeachment were done the way the WH wants it done?

    Not a friggin chance.

    So on what grounds did the WH block this testimony?
     
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    What are dems so afraid of ? The american people hearing the truth ? Not the DEMS TRUTH.
     
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    The question really is...

    What is the WHITE HOUSE so afraid of?

    Why are they blocking EVERYTHING they can?
     
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    What are the repubs so afraid of? The American people hearing the truth? If trump wanted us to hear the truth why is he blocking every attempt to expose the truth???????
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you come to the conclusion the Dems are afraid of the truth when it is the WH that's stonewalling all potentially incriminating testimony and documents the Dems are asking for.
     
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    You are badly confused about the state of events. The WH is the one blocking info at every turn.
     
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    There is no legal requirement for such a vote in order for their to be an inquiry. Trump is just showing his Constitutional ignorance, same way he does every time he has a brain fart about "treason."
     
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    They're just trying to muddy the waters in any way possible in a futile attempt to rationalize their stonewalling. The caveat..............the base will believe anything they say.
     
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    Good for the Administration. He should never have released the transcript. And until they vote in the House and get rid of Schiff they shouldn't release another thing. This is a totally one sided and biased sham. And the Speaker knows it.
    That is why we don't care about their investigation. Trump was not trying to get interference in the 2020 election. But the Dems were clearly doing that in 2016.
     
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    There is no legal requirement for such a vote. And they didn't release a transcript.
     
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    And as it's not an impeachment (which can only be started by a vote), there is no legal requirement to provide documents and testimonies, covered by constitutional separation of powers and executive privilege either. Good luck in court trying to overturn them.

    The claim is that from the legal standpoint it IS not an impeachment, it's a political circus and the WH has absolutely no reason to play in it. Libs not happy? Boo ****ing hoo. Then vote :D
     
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    It is not likely if they do not vote. Whether they will otherwise is a separate question. Voting does not negate division of power and executive privilege. Apparently Pelosi is afraid to call a vote.
     
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    Precedent and fairness.
     
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    Impeachment inquiry. That's what you do to decide whether or not the evidence warrants impeachment. An impeachment vote is a vote to impeach. The inquiry looks into the evidence on which that decision will be based. The fact that the WH is terrified of any such evidence being examined should tell you something.
     
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    You have there examples of such "precedent." And at no point was it put forward as a legal requirement. It isn't a legal precedent. It is, at best, a tradition.
     
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    A precedent or tradition, it is likely to be viewed by the supreme court as a requirement for a fair impeachment trial.
     
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    Not hardly. Courts have a far more specific view of "precedent" that involves actual court findings.
     
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    No such thing in the constitution. not interested. it's a regular congressional investigation (Pelosi can call it a trip to la-la land or impeachment inquiry or whatever else she likes) and all the normal limitations based on the separation of powers and executive privilege apply.

    You no like it amigo, you go to court :D
     
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    Then vote ...
     
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    Vote .
     
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    Vote.....
     
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