Trump administration deporting critically ill children

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    These. Children. Are. Not. Illegal.

    Good grief! The least you righties could do is learn how to comprehend what you read. You assume these are all brown children who are here illegally. Both of those assumptions are wrong.

    And even if you were right about their legal status, does that mean you think it's okay to kill them for it? There are some really sick people on this forum.

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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You made my ignore list for refusing to deal in facts.

    Congratulations.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I donate to St. Judes every year. That's one of the children's hospital organizations that treat sick children free of charge.

    You?
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They don't have the resources for even moderate forms of health care, much less the knowledge.

    One of the kids being threatened with deportation is a 16 year old with cystic fibrosis, a deadly and incurable disease. In an interview, he said that what passes for doctors in his home country of Guyana don't even know what CF is.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How much money do you have.

    If you have more than me I'm coming to your house for medical care.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish I could tell your loved ones you said that. Or do you have none? I wish I could put you in front of one of these dying children and have you say that to them. I'm guessing you're all bold swagger here on an anonymous forum, but face to face you're probably a sissy.
     
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    Not sure if you're full of it or just ignorant...

    Bringing children here and then supporting their families because we cant 'break them up' is precisely anchoring. Its exactly what the term was coined to describe.

    Is it 'cruel' to prevent our social safety nets from bursting with all the worlds poor? We can't fix their broken nations, and the tides of refugees are not going to stop. It will be no less cruel to subject our own children to the sort of suffering they subject theres to, which is precisely what we're setting up by trying to help everyone. We don't have the resources for that. Our responsibility is to our citizens and our future generations first. Once we secure them, we can work towards helping others.

    They're not wrong for trying to come here for a better life. But neither are we wrong for protecting ourselves from the effect they will have on our systems.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good grief.

    I'm not trying to save the world. No one can do that. I'm just pointing out yet another cruel and un-American Trump policy.

    All of you here who think it's okay to send any child home to die, regardless of that child's country of origin or the color of their skin, need to do some serious soul-searching. That's assuming you have souls, which I'm beginning to doubt. You sicken and disgust me, and I think I can speak for anyone with a heart.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Back at ya. The facts support me, not you.
     
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    You don't at all. Having been granted status, they are not illegal. Deporting them is an act of cruelty that simply is not acceptable to Americans who understand what this country is about.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No need. If you have no money and no coverage, go on medicaid. If your child is ill, take him or her to the nearest children's hospital that is supported by donations from people like me and don't charge for medical care.

    :rant:
     
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    If you mean they are under “medical deferred action” status, technically true at the current time, however from the article one of the examples was here on a short term tourist visa, and another just came to the US, no legal status explained. So no, none of these people would be in the country now under any legal status except for “medical deferred action." Which interestingly, grants eligibility to Medicaid. That sounds like a pretty good deal. No wonder poor foreigners come here to get free medical treatment, because...they actually get free medical treatment.

    As for your "brown children" comment, the article doesn't describe the shade or coloration of the children at all, however I assume you desperately want to make a racial point (it's the eternal one bullet in the liberal gun) so by all means, fire away and explain what you mean by that comment?
     
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    ...and once the status is rescinded, they'll be illegal unless they've left the country.
     
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    i reread the article...can you quote where ICE said they weren’t the ones handling the issue now?
     
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    Translation: When I say I want someone to help, I mean someone other than me.
     
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    Saw this featured on Rachel Maddow last night.... this Guatemalan girl in SF..

    It's obviously unbelievable cruel.... whether it's intentional or not is hard to determine, since ignorance and incompetence go hand-in-hand with this administration.

    I read it will be challenged on Day 1 on Congress's return due to the ridiculous time frames involved.

    https://www.masslive.com/politics/2...-sick-children-being-ordered-to-leave-us.html

    That should be a general Democratic message for 2020 - "The cruelty is the point" - That's an anti-Republican platform message I'd get behind 100%
     
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    Say the people who step over 6 dying americans to get to the illegal they care about for political purposes.
     
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    For some reason I think the folks questioned in that survey might answer differently if asked whether we should continue caring for critically ill children (as opposed to all illegals) or send them back to die.
     
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    I'm curious as to why Trump and his administration made no announcements about this policy. Based upon supporters' comments here, it would make him a hero!
     
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    I’d they aren’t illegal then they have nothing to worry about.

    Nobody is killing any children.
     
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    They did...apparently that’s the issue is some in Boston misunderstood the announcement
     
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    I shouldn't be paying for medical care for illegal aliens. Never let sick people immigrate into the USA. They must be cared for on their home soil as it is their country's responsibility, not the USA's.
     
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    We get our money's worth with St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital.

    People know that and the money is freely given from the heart.
     
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    I'm not the one trying to make a racial point. I'm just responding to those here who automatically assume this is about illegals who came over our southern border.

    And even if they did, should that carry a death sentence for these sick children? The prevailing cry from the right is "They're illegal! Let them die!" Read back through this thread ... someone actually said that, in nearly those very words.

    Helping critically sick kids, and keeping their parents with them, is a small price to pay for the privilege of living in a civilized, enlightened, and mostly safe society. (At least, I like to think we're enlightened, but since Trump and his perpetually angry and frightened apologists took over the national narrative, I'm no longer sure we can still claim that.)

    What we spend on these people is a tiny fraction of a percent of the budget. And the hospitals where most of these children are being treated do so at no charge, via our donations.

    I really am sickened by the number of Trumpsters on this thread alone who want to send these children away to die. That is NOT what the United States of America stands for!
     
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    And if they leave, these children will die.

    The hypocrisy of the right is just stunning. On the one hand, most of you think women should be controlled if they are pregnant and should not be allowed to abort a fetus. The right refers to that as killing babies. But here they are, saying that these children can just go away and die, and you're all fine with that.
     
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