Trump Backs Dismissal of USS Roosevelt Captain

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  1. notme

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    You are correct, but I fail to see how the actions of the chain of command impact what the captain did, or impact his potential reinstatement.... We know what he did and the stated reasons why he was removed in the first place.

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    “This investigation will build on the good work of the initial inquiry to provide a more fulsome understanding of the sequence of events, actions, and decisions of the chain of command surrounding the COVID-19 outbreak aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt,” McPherson said.
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    I understand he's new to the job (LOL, a redundant statement in this administration), but this is a stall job, pure and simple... "the guy" has what he needs to make the primary decision here...
     
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    It seems rather clear cut to me.
    The captain went up in the chain of command to seek help for his crew.
    His chain of command did not want the captain to be removed in the first place.
    His chain of command does want the captain to be reinstated after reviewing this.
    His crew was very displeased they lost their captain over this.
    And politicians went like bla bla this. And politicians went bla bla that.

    Captain is still in the navy by the way.
    A politician was made to pack his bags though.
     
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    It was their decision to make not the captains
     
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    And the chain of command took the ship out if service and quarantined the crew. That was the Navy, not the captain of
     
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    Well, as I understand it, he certainly started up his chain of command.

    https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/04/timeline-battle-uss-theodore-roosevelt/164408/

    On Sunday, 3/29, it sounds like the discussion is going on with Crozier, a couple of admirals and Modly.. Still within his chain

    However, and although it's unclear to me how many people Crozier had on his email (10-20? We cannot narrow that down? It should be a finite number, shouldn't it??), it seems likely that not all of them were in his chain of command...

    Regardless, it was almost certainly all Navy people (no media) so while I can certainly understand a minor punishment for his actions, firing was probably overkill, thus the recommendation to reinstate...


    but they were not responding in a timely fashion, so he expanded his requestou are mostly correct... he did go
     
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    As I said that was their decision to make not the captains
     
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    People think it was send all over, but it's not the case. He send that memo to 3 people in his chain of command including his own superior. It was also mailed to 7 other captains, 5 of them were on his ship, 2 of them were served under those 3 up in his chain of command. That does not strike me as odd.
     
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    And they made it. What is the problem?
     
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    Well, I guess his crew is going to continue to be displeased, but I'll wait for the final report before I comment further

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    The U.S. Navy will not reinstate Captain Brett Crozier after finding fault with his response to the outbreak of the coronavirus aboard the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt and is also putting an admiral's promotion on hold, sources told Reuters on Friday.

    But a more in-depth probe, the results of which will be disclosed at least in part on Friday, are expected to detail concerns about his response to the virus, the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told Reuters. It was unclear whether that would include his failure to address those concerns through proper channels.
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-u-navy-puts-promotion-182305865.html
     
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    Because of... "do enough, soon enough" to stem the outbreak"
    Do note... Crozier got fired because he did something AGAINST the outbreak at first... allegedly against the chain of command.
    This is an entirely different reason.
     

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