Trump Calls For ‘Long Jail Sentences’ For Officials Involved in Russia Probe: ‘This Was TREASON!’

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  1. Paul7

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    Exactly, had Hillary won any whispers of wrongdoing would have been dismissed as RW conspiracy theories.

    This treason was premeditated conspiracy, and unusual in that the top level bad actors that are now gone ran it, normally lower lever personnel decide these things. The rank and file FBI was too honest to handle it, apparently.
     
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    He and his campaign wasn't spied on.... some in his campaign were being legitimately investigated, which is Trumps fault for not doing any vetting...

    There was no collusion IF you use the crappy definition used by Mueller, which most don't... If you skip that definition, there are 200+ pages of real-life collusion in Volume 1.
     
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    The AG isn't so sure, nor is the New York Times. Shouldn't we at least find out, with an investigation as thorough as Mueller's?

    They were wrongfully investigated, and in some cases were set up as in entrapment. Honestly, you're OK with the FISA court not being told the dossier was unverified as the law says it should be, and that it was paid for by Hillary? The Deep State has a big problem in that we know they were aware it was unverified garbage prior to asking for FISA warrants. They had no case without the dossier. Are you OK with the FBI/DOJ leaking stories to the press (a crime), then using those news stories to justify the investigation?

    Yet no indictments, funny. Is collusion even a crime?
     
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    Wrong. You know who wasn't vetted properly? The FBI spies. Henry Greenberg Russian mobster. Natalia Veselnitskaya Russian lobbyist. Both given special visas, Add Stefan Halper, Azur Turk, and of course Christopher Steele. A fraudulently obtained FISA warrant destroys any pretences that the covert surveillance ops were legally permissible.
     
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    The whole case should have been thrown out for lack of due process, along with any convictions. Remember that withholding exculpatory evidence from a judge is itself obstruction of justice.
     
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    - The AG position has ceased to exist for the next 20 months
    - No they weren't.... Page, Papa, Manafort, and Flynn were all legitimate targets of an investigation of why people with these extensive Russian connections were all working on a presidential campaign team.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/05/13/us/politics/ap-us-trump-russia-probe-rosenstein.html

    - I don't argue the FISA warrant anymore, since it has nothing to do with anything in the Mueller report, but knock yourself out.

    - I don't believe collusion is a legal crime, but it should be impeachable..
     
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    What does that mean?

    We will find out, won't we? If they weren't legitimate targets and were set up/entrapped, the Deep State is in big trouble.

    If they really thought the Trump campaign was being infiltrated, why was there no defensive briefing given to Trump as was given to Sen. Feinstein when it was found out the Chinese tried to infiltrate her staff?

    There would be no case without the FISA warrants, and no FISA warrants without the dossier that was known to be phoney garbage before it was presented as evidence to the FISA court.

    How could Trump 'obstruct' something that isn't a crime? Time we move on to Hillary's collusion with Ukraine......
     
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    Just rank silliness dude... learn your timeline before making unsustainable statements...
     
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    Believe me, the timeline isn't the Deep State's friend in this mess.
     
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    Must be why Comey and Brennan are now pointing fingers at each other. The more facts unearthed, the worse this looks.
     
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    Our conservative friends have funny imaginations.
     
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    Once upon a time there were idiots who thought it would be a good idea to SPY on the political opposition.

    Today, those idiots are known as the "Obama administration" And they SPIED on Trump's campaign, family, and transition team(among others).
     
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    Carter page wasn’t the opposition. The trump campaign said he wasn’t even part of the campaign.
     
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    Carter page is not the political opposition lol
     
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    Lolz ... Papadopoulos lured to London in May 2016 by Halper, Azur Turk, and Bill Priestep. July 2016 Crowdstrike informs FBI that Russian's stole DNC emails, and Wiki begins publishing them. WTF is the FBI doing in May? Why is Alex Downer reporting what Azur got out of Papadopoulos to the FBI 3 months after the May FBI sting? Halper and Azur orchestrate the spy op, their boss Bill Priestep is in London, but Bill goes back to DC clueless ... until Downer calls in July? :roflol: That sounds plausible?
     
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    It's a cottage industry to throw metal shards into the wheels of justice...

    Trump campaign spied on??

    1. Halper and some "hot" chick attempt to determine what these campaigns clowns are up to?
    2. A FISA warrant on a man who was no longer on the campaign team

    Is that it? Apparently, it is....

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...r-guide/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6db5cd0110fb

    Sad day putting any of that up against the Mueller report.
     
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    Trump aint no lawyer. The guy is a business tycoon, and knowing how bad he has run his business in the past: he is a really really bad tycoon.
     
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    In April 2016, the Obama Admin renewed Flynn's security clearance (highest available). This is months AFTER the RT dinner in Moscow for which he was investigated. How bogus was their investigation!
     
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    A Title I FISA warrant is the most intrusive reserved for foreign spies and terrorists and allows intelligence to gather everything up to two steps from Page, so basically if Page talked to anyone from the Trump campaign they could investigate them and anyone they talked to, which basically covers the entire campaign.
     
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    The Title I FISA warrant negates your claim.
     
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    A Title I FISA warrant is the most intrusive reserved for foreign spies and terrorists and allows intelligence to gather everything up to two steps from Page, so basically if Page talked to anyone from the Trump campaign they could investigate them and anyone they talked to, which basically covers the entire campaign.
     
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    Yes, it allowed the Obama administration to spy on an opposing candidate during an election cycle. Funny how Page has not been charged with anything, isn't it?
     
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    The surveillance obviously didn't produce any actionable evidence. Page was likely on full alert when he left the campaign....

    But you do bring up a good point... that IS something I'd like to know how it was resolved. What was the final disposition of the Page case? Normally, I don't think we are entitled to an FBI investigation resolution if no charges are to be brought, but since we've seen most of the FISA warrant, I think an exception should be made in this case.

    I don't suspect any foul play, but it should be closed out for good.
     
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    No it doesn’t
     
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    It wasn't conservatives who imagined the Russia collusion fairy tale.
     
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