Trump Declines Certification That Iran is in Compliance; Brands Iranian Republican Guards Terrorists

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Somehow Democrats keep the Jews loyal as they constantly trash the Jews. Amazing innit?
     
  2. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People who have never been to the Mid East & some that have have been brainwashed via our Zionist dominated MSM to hate Arabs & Iranians. Anyone can cherry pick government supported cruelty in any country they chose however, few are genuinely aware of the true hospitality exhibited throughout the Islamic world. I've been to Iran albeit, briefly but the experiences of well traveled individuals support the fact that the Iranian people are among the friendliest on the earth

    for example:

    "Ten Reasons Why Iranians are the Kindest People in the World (to Foreign Tourists)"
    http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/09/...dest-people-in-the-world-to-foreign-tourists/

    EXCERPT "During my stay in the country,[IRAN] I soon came to realize what everyone was talking about. Below is a list of ten things I encountered that I believe attest to the kindness of Iranians.

    1. About 30 people a day would approach me on the street and ask “Is there anything I can help you with?” or “Welcome to Iran!”

    2. About three time a day, complete strangers would ask me where my hotel was and invite me to stay with them. I ended up taking one person up on the offer once. Talk about budget travel!

    3. When caught wandering along the street while looking at a map, people would take up to 30 minutes of their own time showing me the way to my destination.

    4. Like Japan, it is common courtesy in Iran to give up your seat on the subway when an elderly person gets on. What surprised me is that many Iranians would give up their seat for me because I was a tourist. When I tried to tell them I was fine standing, they would reply: “You’re a tourist, right? Thank you for coming to Iran! Let me express my gratitude! Please, sit down!”

    5. While visiting the Naqsh-e Jahan Square World Heritage Site in Esfahan, more than 20 people offered to have tea or lunch together, some with their families!

    6. People would frequently come up to me and ask to take a picture together.

    7. People would treat me to tea or a meal for no apparent reason. Whenever I tried to pay they decline to take my money.

    8. Most stores don’t try to rip off tourists.

    9. Foreign tourists are instant celebrities. Whenever I was in a tourist spot, I would be surrounded by Iranians asking me to take pictures with them or exchange contact information.

    10. Nearly everyone you make eye contact with on the street smiles at you and says “Hello!” in English.

    I’ve visited over 40 countries in my travels, and nowhere have I encountered a people kinder than the Iranians."CONTINUED
     
  3. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I do believe it's the IAEA who checks Iran. And if they say Iran is complying, than it's a fact that they are with a full 100%.

    I don't care if it's Trump personally or the congress who does it. If one of the two does it, or both,.. it's still the US who breach the deal when they do.
     
  4. notme

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    so much for claiming moral high grond on Iran though.
     
  5. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, why do you oppose the Nuclear Deal while the majority of Americans, European allies support it and U.S. & Israel's defense experts oppose abrogating it:

    "Israeli defense experts warn against dropping Iran nuke deal"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...97043e57a22_story.html?utm_term=.1cfdb5413cb8

    EXCERPT "Most of Trump’s top national security aides do not want to dismantle the nuclear deal, and America’s European allies have also urged the Trump administration not to walk away."CONTINUED
     
  6. Zorro

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    Trump cannot certify the deal, and this is the framework Obama signed into law if any of the following are not true, in his estimation:
    1) Iran is implementing the agreement,
    2) isn’t in material breach,
    3) and has not conducted activities that could significantly advance a nuclear weapons program —
    4) and that suspension of sanctions in accordance with the deal remains vital to the national security interests of the United States.

    Trump remains unconvinced on at least 1 of those 4 elements. He's open to persuasion, so do so or not.
     
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    It should have never been agreed to just for the stipulation some areas, "Military sites" can not be inspected without prior warning of 60-90 days! What sort of bullshit is this, I swear Obatard must have provided his own KY jelly and lubed himself up "liberally" pun intended ;)
     
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  8. Zorro

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    Iran thinks their lack of transparency is clever, but it had made it impossible for Trump to certify the agreement. I certainly wouldn't certify all four of those elements, no one in their right mind would.
     
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    Well you hit the nail square on the head
    Obatard was a sucker when it came to foreign policy, and then to add insult to injury he put's horseface in charge LMAO!

     
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    Iran is in compliance with the deal. Trump is way off base when he blathers on about the "spirit of the deal". Trump and his allies do not like this agreement because it is an Obama administration deal, including Germany, Great Britain, France, Russia, China, France & the EU. Bottom line is no one will ever trust the United States ever again as long as the lying moronic buffoon is president..........
     
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    I don't agree. Iran has threatened the security of the ME and is documented to fund and support terrorist activity. Their regime is a blight on the ME and any effort to blunt their efforts certainly doesn't hurt.

    The UN is a joke, and a totally ineffective relic from the past.

    Again, anyone who thinks Iran has lived up to their agreements is naive on a rather large scale.
     
  12. sawyer

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    Hardliners in Iran say they will destroy Israel when they get nukes so letting them get nukes as the Obama deal does guarantees WW3.
     
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    Trump's being pissy about Iran to wee wee up his mindless cult is conspicuously lacking in testicular fortitude.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ng-congress-to-rewrite-the-iran-deal-for-him/

    Despite his macho talk, his wimpy behaviour lacks bollocks:

    "The president could have made good on his campaign threat to kill the deal by withdrawing from it outright."
    He didn't.

    "He could have also urged Congress to reimpose strict sanctions on Iran’s nuclear program — a move made possible by his decision on Friday to “decertify” the deal under U.S. law.
    He didn't.
    [​IMG]

    Trump worshipers will once again have to pleasure themselves with vapid bluster. Nothing of substance is in the offing.
     
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  14. notme

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    Except Hassan Rouhani, the Iranian president, isn't a hardliner.
    So your claim is all about ifs and buts and hypothetical situations that don't happen. You can rant the same about hardliners in the US,.. you know... the kind who chant "the Jews will not replace us"... and their point of view on Iran.
     
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  15. MVictorP

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    :roflol:

    No mention about the elephant in the room?
     
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    Except Hassan is a figurehead leader. The hardliners run the country and he is just for show
     
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    Which countries did Iran invaded since these 40 years? I'd bet you invaded more in the last 10 years.

    The ones creating unstability and chaos in the ME, notably by attacking every secular regime out there, are the US, Israel and the Sauds. Iran just had the guts to resist it - that's all they've done.

    It's right there staring at you.
     
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    The same can be said about Jewish orthodox in Israel, if in a more hypocritical matter. But clearly, the other shoe doesn't fit.
     
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    WTF Nazis? Calm yourself - you're going to make a mess.
     
  20. sawyer

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    Israel is widely known or at least strongly suspected of having nukes and they have shown that their nukes are purely defensive. Iran is on record saying they will destroy Israel when they are capable and I take them at their word.
     
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    Nah - the deal insured that Iran did not develop a nuke, notably with inspections.

    No deal will insure that Iran follows NK's exemple and develop nukes, while you'll be in the dark.

    :applause:
     
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    Uh no. Hassan is an Islamic cleric, part of the assembly who appoints Irans supreme leader, and part of it's national security council. He runs the show.
     
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    You guys are way too much focused on what people say. Being less hypocritic maybe, I am more interested by what they do. Iran didn't caused a eight of the problems either you, Israel (still you) and the Wahabists from your Saud friends committed in the name of your fat cats' interests.

    What were you trying to sell?
     
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    Israel is on record that they will destroy Iran.
     
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    Obama let iran exempt military facilities from inspection which makes the deal a smoke and mirrors shell game joke.
     

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