Trump Declines Certification That Iran is in Compliance; Brands Iranian Republican Guards Terrorists

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    Reagan and Bush are terrorist? Isn't it 2017?

    Reagan and Bush are evil, so that means leftist can aid and abet Jihadist...
     
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    Trump wants a real deal not the shell game deal we have now which allows it's to declare any facility a military site and off limits to inspection. The deal is a joke and Iran is laughing.
     
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    Please work on your reading comprehension.

    "The IAEA, in its most recent report in June, said Iran was meeting its obligations under the pact"

    Yes Iran is meeting the obligations of the bad treaty that allows them to hide behind any facility they call military.
     
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    LOL. Iran is Shiia which is at war with Sunni Jihadists. Too bad you are too ignorant of the facts or you would not be making such a fool of yourself.


    By contrast, your heroes in the Republican party are the ones financing Jihadist Sunni terrorists:



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    Never in history has there ever been a bigger treasonous organization and financier of terrorism than the Republican party.
     
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    the pact - this means they have met their legal obligation


    Thank you for confirming that I wrote and for proving traitor Trump wrong.
     
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    Jon McLame is one of you. He sold out to the collective long ago.

    Why you trying to justify sending money to terrorist?
     
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    “I cannot tell you how many complementary accesses we have had, but I can tell you ... that we have had access to locations more frequently than many other countries with extensive nuclear programs.”

    Strange its so top sekret.....
     
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    As I said they have met the legal obligation of a very flawed treaty that lets them hide whatever they want in any facility they deem to be military in nature. You can dance around this all you want but it doesn't change the facts.
     
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    I've been to Iran as well as Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey & much of the surrounding area & base my opinions on personal experiences & 40+ years of research & contact with people currently in the region.

    The only thing Iran has threatened has been Israeli Regional hegemony under Israel's Oded Yinon plan which calls for the dismantling of its neighboring states using ISIS & the Syrian rebels as their proxies.

    Hezbollah, meanwhile is only regarded as a "Terrorist organization" by 7 countries, is defensive in nature and devotes 1/2 of its budget to humanitarian Social Services(1). What are the humanitarian deeds of the US & Israeli supported ISIS?

    Even if Iran is not living up to all conditions of the nuclear deal, why should they when Israel maintains the largest rogue nuclear arsenal on the planet & has attacked all of its neighbors and there's not a whimper from the US.

    Do the Iranian people deserve to be any less secure than anyone else?

    Did you know that ALL aid to Israel is illegal under the Symington agreement because of its illegal nuclear transfers etc but the $ Billions continue to flow to Israel because of the political clout of AIPAC etc that shapes America's hypocritical & counterproductive Mid East Policy.

    Today's Iranian regime is more moderate than the US & Israel's as you would know if you listened to Rouhani's refreshingly sane UN speech & met with Iranian people.



    (1) "Hezbollah"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah

    EXCERPT "Hezbollah not only has armed and political wings – it also boasts an extensive social development program. Hezbollah currently operates at least four hospitals, twelve clinics, twelve schools and two agricultural centres that provide farmers with technical assistance and training. It also has an environmental department and an extensive social assistance program. Medical care is also cheaper than in most of the country's private hospitals and free for Hezbollah members."[126]

    According to CNN, "Hezbollah did everything that a government should do, from collecting the garbage to running hospitals and repairing schools."[143] In July 2006, during the war with Israel, when there was no running water in Beirut, Hezbollah was arranging supplies around the city. Lebanese Shiites "see Hezbollah as a political movement and a social service provider as much as it is a militia."[143] Hezbollah also rewards its guerilla members who have been wounded in battle by taking them to Hezbollah-run amusement parks.[144]

    Hezbollah is, therefore, deeply embedded in the Lebanese society."CONTINUED
     
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    That's right, even Hitler was playing just a game. Had he been serious, I don't think there would be any Jews left to threaten Iran now.
     
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    Iran doesn't invade. It subverts. It sends troublemakers in to create civil unrest. And you really need to study up instead of listening to politics. Or, perhaps you are already one of the subverted.
     
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    They thrive on their own bitterness. Hopefully Congress will do the right thing.
     
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    If removed, no one will be allowed in, and everything they do will go unchecked and helped by China and Russia. Once again, repeating the same mistake, and in addition, removing any US influence in the region.
     
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    I do not believe your self credits.
    If you had spent any time at all in those countries, as I have done; and if you spoke the language and were not in a sheltered situation such as with a religious organization, military or Peace Corps, you would not make such a blatently untrue remark. Hezbollah is the puppet of Iran.

    Your argument might bear logic if the only target of Hezbollah were Israel. However, they seeped across the border into Lebanon and attempted to take over the country. Lebanon was a religiously well blended and tolerant country - there was no motive to attack the Lebanese. How did Hezbollah get fatigues, weapons, anti-aircraft guns, trucks, armored vehicles, training, coordination and munition? Do you think they self-financed by selling their goats?

    Iran has fomented unrest and war for more than 50 years, with the objective of creating a new Persian Empire.
     
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    Believe it or not, I did spend 10 - 11 months hitch-hiking, walking etc throughout those countries and many more around the world. It was after my military service that I went to the Mid East, alone. I was far from in a "sheltered situation" as I enjoyed the hospitality for which Muslims are known to show travelers.
    Yes, I know that Iran supports Hezbollah just as Israel supports the far more heinous ISIS & the Syrian Rebels in an attempt to facilitate Israel's Oded Yinon plan for Regional Hegemony aka "Greater Israel"
    Yes, Israel does and has had a motive to attack Lebanon to seize the Litani River basin as has been a Zionist agenda since 1919.(See I.C.E. Case 14)
    It is just as well known that Israel is planning to attack Lebanon again (there's a thread related to that on this forum)
    Israel began its murderous forays into Lebanon long before Hezbollah was formed as a defensive force to help thwart the Zionist "Greater Israel" agenda.
    Meanwhile, Iran has attacked no one in 300 years while Israel has attacked all of its Neighbors. What is Iran's equivalent to Israel's Oded Yinon plan


    “From the "Yinon Plan" to the "Ya’alon Strategy"
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html

    EXCERPT “During the five-day trip he made to the United States, Israeli defense minister Moshe Ya’alon told Steve Inskeep, one of the hosts of Morning Edition on National Public Radio that "MidEast borders ‘absolutely’ will change" [1].

    Ya’alon follows to the letter the balkanization process of the "Yinon Plan", named after a former Israeli Foreign Ministry official [2]: "the borders have already changed" since Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is no longer in a position to unify his country and that he "only controls 25% of Syria", which creates a problem that Israel "will have to pay." How sad!”
    CONTINUED
     
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    Israel claims Iran poses an imminent threat, my only question is why doesn’t the Israeli government send their own army to deal with Iran if they feel so strongly ? From where I sit it’s either talks or War , trying to bait America into another war is not smart foreign policy ! Trump is now an Israeli lap dog he rolled over the treats we get in return is our soildiers in another war bravo! America Second !
     
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    Did you read the persons post that I was responding to? Or just attack me unnecessarily?
     
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    Trump seems so intent on removing anything the black guy did that he does not seem to care or think about what it will mean for the people he supposedly represents...let alone anyone else.
     
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    The Israeli lobbies duped Americans into fighting the last war for Israel(1) and are busily pushing us to fight Iran(2) for them which would be a disaster

    (1) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

    (2) "America Cannot Go to War for Israel"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ahmed-moor/america-cannot-go-to-war-_b_682467.html


    EXCERPT "The Zionists Benjamin Netanyahu, Jeffrey Goldberg and George Will want young American men and women to attack Iran on behalf of Israel. These are the same men who wanted young American men to attack Iraq. But Iran is not Iraq, and many thousands of Americans will die in the next war.

    There are thousands of Americans stranded in Iraq and Afghanistan, two states that share long and porous borders with Iran. It’s foolish to think that if America attacks Iran, those American troops will emerge from the carnage unscathed.

    We have a responsibility to stop this hysterical march to war. Iran does not pose any threat to America. The men pushing this war lied to us about Iraq, and they’re lying now about Iran. The warmongers and profiteers must be forced back into their kennels. They must be discredited and shamed. America cannot fight another war built on lies. America cannot afford another war for Israel. "CONTINUED
     
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    To abrogate the Nuclear Deal would do enormous harm to American interests no matter what or who is driving Trump.
    What other world leader would make an agreement with the US knowing that the next American president might just "tear it up"?

    Additionally, it is in America's best interest to have good relations with Iran as Iran could & wants to be both a strategic and economic ally(1)
    It is only because near omnipotent America's Zionist lobbies that American businesses are sitting on the sideline while the rest of the world profits from doing business with Iran.(2)

    Trump should put America's interests first rather than the country whose lobbies surround him(3), (4), (5)




    (1) "Iran's President Rouhani Won't Stop Reaching Out to the American People"
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ont-stop-reaching-out-american-people/310856/




    (2) "Foreign Investors Flock to Iran as U.S. Firms Watch on the Sidelines"
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/foreig...s-u-s-firms-watch-on-the-sidelines-1490607002


    EXCERPT "After years shunning Iran, Western businesses are bursting through the country’s doors—but U.S. companies are noticeably absent."CONTINUED


    (3) "Trump Administration Dominated by Zionist Lobby"
    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/02/25/512070/US-politics-Iran



    (4) "Meet the Zionists In Donald Trumps Administration"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/The-top-Jewish-officials-in-the-Trump-Administration-479769



    (5) "Meet the Jews in Donald Trump’s Inner Circle"
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-the-jews-in-donald-trumps-inner-circle/
     
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    I don't buy it either, your post reads like a pile of anti-semetic horseshirt in a base of eurotrash pop "sophistication".

    Iran is ruled by a bunch of very smart, very focused, ruthless men whose goals are clear: the destruction of the Great Satan (America) and the Little Satan (Israel) That one of our erstwhile allies is actively supporting them in that quest is a direct result of years of feckless and accomodationist policies on the part of the Obama administration.

    Germany: Merkel Gov, Media Slam Trump on Iran Nuke Deal

    Corporate Germany loved the deal too. The Bavaria Chamber of Commerce, the leading trade body in the country, told its clients ahead of the deal that the “German media landscape across the board agrees that lucrative deals worth billions are waiting to be made in Iran. As soon as the sanction are lifted, the run on the markets begins.”

    The hopes were well-founded. German exports to Iran soared, raking in billions of euros in revenue for the fat cats supporting major political parties.

    Watching President Trump chip away that political legacy and threaten those corporate profits by decertifying the Iran Nuclear Deal in his Friday speech provoked angry reactions from the German government and corporate media.


    The Germans are angry because their slice of that sweet, sweet Iranian blood money is in jeopardy, all because of meanie Trump and his psychotic ambition to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power. Never mind that the stated goal of their state religion, Shia Islam, is, literally, Armageddon. Never mind that they routinely state that the destruction of the state of Israel is one of their priorities.

    Bill Clinton gave in to the North Koreans 20 years ago. We are suffering the consequences today. If we do nothing about Iran, we will be lucky if we have 20 years.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/372010.php
     
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    Big surprise.......Zionists don't like Iran because its thwarting your Oded Yinon / "Greater Israel" Plan.
     
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    Zionists don't like Iran because Iran is the world's leading sponsor of terror and a death cult dedicated to the destruction of the United States and Israel and has already destroyed Lebanon and is well on their way to destroying Yemen.
     

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