Trump doubles down on sanctions - threatening Europe with divorce

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  1. fmw

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    I praised your english and provided some information to help you. If you can't handle that, I can't help you.
     
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    Its rude and shows you have no manners.

    1. You are not my teacher and we are not at school. I state my political point of view as a grown adult man. Correcting me is paternalistic and degrading.

    2. I have very lowe expectations regarding basic behavior from your people but you even underscored that.

    Its same **** that your pathetic president does. Insulting your countries allies in the worst way.

    If i want help in english, i ask for it.
     
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    OK. I will leave you alone. Dealing with you is entirely too unpleasant. Goodbye.
     
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    Yeah, i have no doubt its not a nice feeling to get teached some basic manners. Next level i will teach you to eat with knife an fork.
     
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    That was uncalled for. Typical German arrogance.
     
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    Of course they are. The ability to shoot down Russian nukes gives the US first strike potential and a decided advantage. Would Russia put ABM's on our borders the child birth pain screams from the Pentagon would be heard round the world.

    The whole point of the ABM treaty was to prevent some buckaroo from thinking "we will strike first and when they shoot back we will shoot them down"

    Bush pulled out of the ABM treaty in 2002 - ok fine - but then proposing putting them on Russia's borders in Poland Czech was nuts. Russia went ballistic - and for good reason. This action - for the exact reason above - destabilizes nuclear detente. Russia was then forced to take counter measures. The considered a number of options

    1) nukes in space - this was not done - and thank God for that. Having nukes above our head in space 30 seconds away - instead of 30 minutes away is "hair trigger". This threat to global security makes Iran look like an ant beside an elephant.

    Fortunately Russia did not do this.

    2) violate the short range treaty and build short range nuclear cruise missiles - to take out the ABM's prior to launch. Obviously this puts Europe in the crosshairs - again increasing the global security threat - arguably as much as Iran - had to think on that one.

    Russia has been working hard on missile technology since the wall fell - not having cash to match the US plane for plane ship for ship - they opted for niche technologies - you can fire a whole lot of 1 million dollar missiles for the cost of a 15 billion dollar carrier. They have been working in conjunction with India for near 2 decades and with China as well - hence the new hypersonic stuff they have.

    3) They doubled down on their sub program.

    With Russia feeling that 2/3 provided enough restabilization of detente - they didn't go the "nukes in space" route.

    I remember the Obama Clown going on TV complaining "Russia has violated the short range treaty".... the clown show MSM then spent 3 days putting up footage of the Reagan years and the START treaties. What Obama failed to mention was " And by the way - we forced them to do it by violating the ABM treaty and putting ABM's on Russia's border".

    The propaganda put out in relation to "we are defending Europe against Iran" was complete BS. Russia even offered a different location - one better suited to such a defense - think it was Khackistan or some place in a better intercept path (Turns out that Poland would not even work) this offer was refused.

    We have been poking the Bear - big time - and this is stupid. Now we are talking about weaponization of space - to counter the Russian missile threat. MAD ness. We need to stop pretending that a nuclear war is winnable. All this does is ramp up the arms race - which has happened. We are not going to out technology "Russia-China-India" working together - to the point where we will be able to attack Russia with nukes and not be afraid of the response. Continuing down that path is loonytunes.

    Iran is nothing compared to this - they don't have a nuke and agreed to the deal. The various propaganda narratives are nonsense- especially tying some deal to not helping Hamas. This is the most stupid of arguments... which tells us how willing these clowns are to engage in propaganda.
     
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    Historically Europeans have lurched from one crisis, one war, to the next. They have lost their cultures and self respect and are, as you say, blind to their own futures. The anti Americanism which is seriously and negatively affecting their foreign policies will bite then in the ass within a decade. That's largely why the smart ones are leaving.
     
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    Did I say the U.K.? Don't think so but France did ultimately collaborate as they are doing now
     
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    Germans, by and large, are jerks. It's no secret to anyone who has visited there, or hosted German tourists.
     
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    Style looks like arrogance from below. But enough of this.
     
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    Did I say the U.K.? Don't think so but France did ultimately collaborate as they are doing now
    Posing for diplomatic photo ops is not siding with and all those world leaders also have pics with trump
     
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    Yeah, because trying to keep peace with Iran, stabilize the middle east and preventing millions of migrants is a bad idea.

    Get real.
     
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    Its tiresome having to nursemaid foreign liberals for whom. English is a second language

    Meaning anti-Jewish muslims

    The nazis were mucking around with the arabs in palestine, syria, and the persians in iran
     
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    Do Germans truly believe they can stabilize the Middle East? Iran will only gain another ally against Israel.

    I know of no country anywhere in the world that the Germans have 'stabilized' unless they have 24/7 armed troops on every street corner - and that's only temporary.
     
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    Thing is, Germany, France, UK, Japan, Russia and China all say they will not allow war against Iran and heavily oppose Trump.

    Who btw is anotehr slob unable to eat with knife and fork. He is so primitive that it hurts.

    Did you see how his slutty daughter was ignored at G20 meeting? She tried to talk with Macron, May and Lagarde and they just ignored her.



    She is the laughing stock of the world. Just as her pathetic father.

    Best is Lagarde facial expression of disgust towards her
     
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    The abm’s in Poland are to protect Poland from russian or iranian nukes

    If thats looks like a threat to the russians and liberal trump haters too bad
     
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    Oh we stabilized Egypt. USA toppled Mubarak and installed Mursi. Germany heavily supported the military coup against the american muppet until it was toppled.

    Now Obama and Clinton cant enter Egypt without being arrested while our man in Cairo rules with an iron fist.
     
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    I suspect their next lurch will be their last

    Maybe a 10 nation confederacy with headquarters in Rome but led by germany
     
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    Says someone from a failed state that doesnt even have functional infrastructure and baby mortality on the level of 3rd world countries.
     
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    You better hope you are wrong

    If America fails the whole world fails
     
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    Yeah...like the world failed when Egypt went down. Or when Sumeria went down. Or Assyria went down. Or when Persia went down. Or when Alexanders Empire went down. Or when the Han-.Empire went down. Or when the Roman Empire went down. Or when the British Empire went down. Or when the Inca Empire went down. Or when the spanish Empire went down.

    Hey tell me, why does your country have such a low life expectancy? Why sich a high infant mortality? Whats the reason for that?
     
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    Ok

    Dont say I didnt warn you
     
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    Crack babies and liberal gangangers in the hood

    You may not understand what that means but its not good
     
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    We already prepare for your breakup.

    Why you think our chancellor visits individual US states and opens diplomatic relations with them. Ignoring the white house.

    Same as our counter tariffs. When trump made the steel tariffs, our counterstrikes striked only against Trump states to punish them. We dont see the USA as one anymore. We start diplomatic relations with California, New York and Oregon.
     

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