Trump encourages violence

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  1. guttermouth

    guttermouth Banned

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    i can tell the political affiliation of the people who run cities with the highest murder rates in the country and the affiliation of the people who vote them into office.
     
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    It was a public venue that was open to the public, I was at that Fayetteville rally just to observe , I never saw such a bunch of uneducated backward racists in one place and the racial comments in conversations was sickening. Thankfully these kind of people are dying off and don't represent the future of America. thankfully our sheriff didn't put up with that racist nut as he was arrested for attacking the protester

    http://www.wral.com/trump-s-rough-handling-of-rally-dissenters-stirs-questions/15514502/
     
  3. doombug

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    The reason these idiot protestors show up at Trump events is because the other events get no attention. These protestors are attention whores looking to be in the spot light. If they need a nap they attend a Hillary event.
     
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    considering you've had your unsubstantiated and massive thread re anti Trump protestors riot removed your cred is dead
     
  5. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So all of the cities with the highest murder rates are Democrat? And all of the cities with the lowest murder rates are Republican?

    Because New York, which has a relatively low murder rate, has a Democrat as mayor. Arlington VA has the second lowest murder rate in the US and has been very strongly Democrat. So maybe the correlation leans more toward a city's poverty rate?
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only because the moderator didn't bother to look up riot in the dictionary.

    riĀ·ot (rī′ət)
    n.
    1. A wild or turbulent disturbance created by a large number of people.
    2. Law A violent disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled for a common purpose.
    3. An unrestrained outbreak, as of laughter or passions.
    4. A profusion: The garden was a riot of colors in August.
    5.
    a. Unrestrained merrymaking; revelry.
    b. Debauchery.

    Violent disturbance of the public peace. By all definitions it was a riot.

    Personal attack noted.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  7. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well ok then you're right, it was indeed a riot.
     
  8. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did have fun with it, you did as well methinks.

    Have a good weekend Doug.

    I'm rioting on......

    Cheers
    Labour
     
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    Didn't read thread. I see all these "Trump violent" "Mussolini" threads from leftists here lately. I guess they had the flu the days all the "protesting" was going on in Ferguson.

    Violence or threat of it has been the left's primary tool of intimidation for a century now. From Democrat KKK members beating and hanging people, to killing fields, to feminists calling in bomb threats and pulling fire alarms, shouting down speakers and doing the crap they do at Trump rallies. THAT'S THE LEFT. Leftism -is- violence in very real ways, historically documented with hundreds of datapoints, and generating 100s more datapoints every single day all over the planet. Their constant "demonstrations" (paid for by Soros, a lobby or other) are shouting, angry mobs threatening violence, but of course that's just "free speech," yet anytime anyone else non LW demonstrates at all in some outlier way, suddenly that 2% of all the demonstrations ongoing are "real threats of domestic terrorism" and "angry uneducated whites."

    ...and so now a very centrist, populist candidate to the left of almost all the other GOP candidates (not even close to being as conservative as a Reagan or Perot) is threatening to upturn the anointed Complex candidate's apple cart, and suddenly he's "Mussolini" ROFL?!! andTrump's jokes about punching someone in the nose are threats to be taken earnestly and seriously? to handflap over ad infinitum.

    The hypocrisy is mind-boggling. How do these scumbags manage to look at themselves in the mirror in the morning with the completely convoluted, deranged and inconsistent state of their tiny pea brains what it is?

    Seriously, find a new meme, there is PLENTY of legitimate hash to be made of Donald Trump. This ain't it.
     
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    That's the exception not the rule. The majority of not all of crime ridden hell holes with ridiculously high murder rates are fun by democrats.
     
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    I do not understand your argument....the folk rioting are all dem voters and many Sanders supporters. If you think MoveOn and BLM are conservative interest groups you re sadly mistaken.
     
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    Yes, it's standing up to the "shut up!" crowd that thinks silencing their opponents is a moral tactic. It is immoral, and needs to be stopped.

    I've seen this so many times coming from the left, and it's actually refreshing to see republicans fighting back. Not just with violence, but look at the comments on this page from moveon

    http://front.moveon.org/trump-chicago-dishonest/#.VuSWKibkL0p

    It's a solid wall of trump supporters telling moveon just exactly what they think of them.
     
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    Where were you when BLM was calling for dead cops now? Right, you said nothing so you have zero credibility.
     
  14. Mike12

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    Here's the thing, the media largely creates all of this...

    let's step back for a minute. How many times have the media replayed these things Donal trump has said? hundreds of times and they've had leftists on TV taking the opportunity to politicize it, adding fuel to the fire.

    Let's put this into context. First of all, Trump has the largest crowds of any candidate. What does this mean? More protesters will naturally be part of his rallies. Secondly, Trump is the front runner of the GOP, the leftist's bigger target. Remember, leftist groups are by far the biggest trouble makers; for instance, black lives matter even interrupted a Bernie Sanders speech! Now has Donald Trump made some silly remarks? yes, but how often? Keep in mind that Trump is interrupted by people like 10+ times in every rally.. how many rallies has he put together? Let's just be conservative and guess 50... So 50 * 10 = 500 protests, give or take. So out of 500 interruptions, Trump has made 3 or 4 stupid comments? in the heat of the moment? tired of being interrupted by trouble makers? Yes, it's unpresidenitial, but that's Trump. So, out of 500 or so interruptions, he's made 3 or 4 silly remarks and what does the media do? replay these remarks over and over and over and over again. What does this do? It makes it look like Trump is making these comments all the time and when you factor in leftists and political rivals adding fuel to the fire, it just makes the fire burn hotter and makes it spread. Lastly, you have these thugs who want to use violence and threats.. These thugs are trying to step on 1st amendment rights and i see most people condemning Trump, for his 3-4 comments out of 500 or so interruptions, instead of condemning these thugs... many of which don't care about what Trump says but just want to have fun by creating havoc.
     
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    Not only does Trump tap into the anger of the right. He also feeds on the violent inclinations of his followers...and will try to capitalize on the eventual in-kind response of the opposition.

    You'd figure I'd be tired of it by now, but it is always amazing to watch history repeat itself before one's eyes.




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  16. Doug_yvr

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    No causation though, or all would follow the rule and in the US they don't. In addition in a country like Canada which is very liberal and has large cities which don't follow the rule. Toronto, which is the 5th largest city in North America, has one of the lowest crime rates of any major city in the world. So we could say that two very large cities with liberal leadership (NYC and Toronto) all on their own sink your theory.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I used only Trump's exact words, not media reports.

    I posted his words, the months and locations. Even with that information, and ignoring the multiple times media has replayed them, the remarks stand on their own as damning. Only in the worst totalitarian countries would a leader call for violence against citizens.

    What Trump has done, repeatedly, is unconscionable.
     
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    States with the highest murder rates

    Arkansas
    Florida
     
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    states which are least american
     
  20. Mike12

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    question, if the media hadn't replayed these 3-4 comments time and time again with political rivals spitting fire on TV, do you think this would be a big issue? you and i both know, NO. Keep in mind, i'm a democrat and if you look at a lot of my posts over time, i'm constantly bashing people on the right. As a democrat though, i'm not blind, and i absolutely detest those on the left that LOVE to act thuggish and suppress freedom of speech. I thought the way those two dumb women interrupted Bernie Sanders was disgusting. I also hate how blacks are always demonizing cops but say little about the biggest problem blacks have - black thugs in neighborhoods.

    you know very well that if the media hadn't replayed these 3-4 comments hundreds of times on TV and allowed Trump rivals to politicize it, this would be a minor issue... you know it, i know it. These people make it something much bigger.. and it's disgusting.

    Once again, keep in mind that Trump has only made 3-4 silly remarks amidst hundreds of protests where his patience has been put to the test. It's not like he's regularly making these remarks, as the media makes it out to be. I have watched several of these rallies and Trump has regularly made benign remarks but how many times does he media play these? Also, out of so many rallies where 10s of thousands show up, one guy punches a trouble maker and it's replayed as if this is happening all the time, it's disingenuous. I'm actually amazed that with such large crowds and so many protesters, there hasn't been much more violence... amazing.

    and let's be real, many of these protesters don't care about what Trump is saying, they just show up cause it's a hobby and it's fun, to create trouble and infringe upon someone's 1st amendment rights.

    So let me be clear, i definitely think Trump has made some silly remarks which as a presidential candidate he shouldn't make but these remarks have to be weighed against the # of interruptions, which have been in the hundreds... It should also be weighed against the many times Trump has condoned violence and showed patience when dealing with protesters. We all have to also be honest with ourselves and realize that the media has made this 10 times greater and given we are in the midst of an election, political rivals have seized the moment to make it even bigger.

    i sometimes wonder if i should venture more to the right when i see these low beings and thugs on the left acting like the real fascists, hitlers.... If you will protest, do it peacefully..
     
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    Its sad, and its sad the Trump supporters are too chicken to admit to the fact Trump's spiteful rhetoric has contributed to these events (like Spooky's).

    Passionate people don't go around beating the sh*t out of homeless people,
     
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    Better yet the protesters shouldn't have been on the premises in the first place. You don't have to listen you have no right to prevent other from listening and the old fightin' words pretext comes immediately to mind...
     
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    They weren't homeless anymore than the overwhelming majority of OWS protesters were homeless. There spoiled rich brats and the usual rent a punks that show up at damn near all these leftist browbeating events. It's gotten so bad in the last few years that the spontaneous leftist protest ahs become an oxymoron.
     
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    And how do you know that exactly? Specifically in the case of that homeless man being beaten up by Trump supporters, how do you know he was just posing as a homeless guy.
     
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    How do you know he wasn't?
     

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