Trump encourages violence

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Way to try shooting the question back.
    Whether this guy was legitimately homeless or not, it does not excuse the malicious act committed by these supporters of Trump's.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    A nothing excuses jackass who go looking for trouble. You go looking for a fight and you get your ass kicked you got no one to blame but yourself.
     
  3. Balto

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    And you know he was looking for a fight how? Were you a witness, a bystander, what?
     
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    And you know they were trump supporters how?
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    You know as well as I that's more of Trump's hot air. If Trump would have really lived up to what he said, he would no longer be mentioning violent acts in his rallies.
     
  8. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course it would be a big issue, even if only once he called for violence. But he hasn't done it once, he's done it several times. Can you imagine any western leader publicly encouraging violence against their own citizens? Can you think of a time in recent history where that ever happened?

    Think about that for a minute.

    Then think about this: even in the most despotic regimes in the world the leaders are somewhat careful not to publicly encourage violence against their opponents. If Trump is calling for violence now, before he's elected, what will he do when he has the ability to use the most powerful government apparatus in the world against his opponents? And I'm not talking external threats, I'm talking about his domestic opponents.

    This is the tyranny US founders went to war over.
     
  9. tsuke

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    Only thing I can say is Trump never broke up a Bernie rally Clinton rally or even JEB rally. His opponents broke up his.

    If you really think Trump is dangerous beat him in the ballot box like how its supposed to be done.
     
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    obama has encouraged violence ever since he took office.
     
  11. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Protest is a legal and effective avenue to oppose ideas and people. It has been used throughout America's history to great effect. Protest is one of the reasons Queen Elizabeth's head isn't on your currency and blacks can go to school.

    People engaged in the electoral process aren't limited to the ballot box, and never have been. They can go on social media, they can write letters and they can publicly protest. All these things are protected in the 1st Amendment.
     
  12. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would challenge you to name one instance where Obama encouraged violence against citizens but you won't won't post anything because you're the master of one-line unsubstantiated drivel. And that's on your best day. At your worst all you spew is cliches.
     
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    I agree which is why i dont have a problem with people protesting. Breaking up rallies is another.

    Look you cant deny thats what happened. They broke up a rally because they did not agree with what they were saying.

    I wont deny that there is violence INSIDE trump rallies against the protesters. Only thing i can say is that if the protesters were outside or somewhere not in the middle of things they would not have been harmed. Outside the rallies trump supporters are generally not harming people. (i can only think of one instance that can be an outlier very early into the process).

    Again the protest sought out the trump rally to break it up.
     
  14. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They didn't 'break up' Trump's rally. He decided not to speak, and he lied about why. He said that it was after consultation with the Chicago Police but they are adamant they weren't consulted and were surprised by the cancellation.
     
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    he decided not to speak because there were so many protesters inside the event area already that it would have caused a clash.

    However lets dig deeper into your argument.

    they didnt break up his rally he "decided" not to speak. In other words he decided not to excercise his constitutional rights.

    Ok lets look at gays in the military. What happens if you allow them to declare that they are gay but impose a culture where they will be discriminated against if they do. By your reasoning if they "decided" not to declare then it would be their fault.

    I can come up with more if you need but you can already see where it fails.
     
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    LOL! obama has done nothing but encourage violence. He is a low life.
     
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    LOL, the violent leftists complaining about free speech and violence. Too funny!
     
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    Yeah, what happened to giving people room to destroy....I guess that only applies to Baltimore and Ferguson.
     
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    It is funny when leftists are violent it is always someone else's fault.
     
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    Victimhood covers it all. I remember the silence when BLM was calling for dead cops and now they are worried about some punks getting pushed around a little at a rally.
     
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    But Doug, they cannot go into a partisan rally on private property to agitate and disrupt and expect to come out unscathed. Physically handled either by the police or venue security and in the heat of the moment maybe a bystander.

    Politics is rough and tumble always has been, America's history is full of it.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  22. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Protest happens every single day all over America and other free countries and the protesters and counter-protesters walk away unharmed. All the Democrat and Republican candidates have had protesters, and even Obama has protesters show up from time to time, and those people are removed if need be without being beaten by the crowd. And in every case the Republican and Democrat candidates have never encouraged violence, except for Donald. Violence occurs only at Trump rallies because only he encourages it.
     
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    That's disingenuous, we've all seen the videos of the event.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
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    It's actually illegal to protest those events. Obama signed into law that made it illegal to protest events while in the presence of the Secret Service. By disrupting a private event that is being rented by a private entity they're already trespassing if they refuse to leave.
     
  25. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's interesting. What Act is it?
     

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