"Trump Goes to War Against the Democracies"

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  1. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Even if that were true (it's not), it wouldn't determine whether she would make a helpful president for Putin. Here, I don't think I can say it better than the following:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-22/vladimir-putin-and-hillary-clinton-hatred-explained/9783076


    Contrast this with Trump, who has really gone out of his way to be friendly to Putin. Most recently, he asked for Russia to come back into the G7. But before that there were many examples, I recall the first one that made me realize something was off was at the Republican convention where the only thing Trump's team cared about on the republican party platform was preventing America from selling weapons to anti-Russian Ukrainians.
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    What better way to disrupt than to support the total idiot candidate who has no interest in getting in the way of your ambitions, and even has a man-crush on your leader? Of course they would support Bernie in order to undermine Clinton.
     
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    Sergei, is that you? You are working overtime, komrade.
     
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    Well why don't you quote what they said?
     
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    What who said? Trump was going to give a pass to a company that violated a trade ban with Iran and North Korea. Congress said hell no. Trump is still trying to fight congress on this. Why? Why would Trump fight against sanctions against a Chinese company that is in clear violation with Iran and North Korea?

    Read up.

    http://fortune.com/2018/06/13/zte-trump-china-heres-fuss-all-about/
     
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    delete double
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the NY TIMES was LYING?

    It was absolutely true. That is not even in dispute. The lying left just tires to pretend that the tens of $millions from ROSATOM investors/owners was , LAUGHABLY, unrelated to uranium one.

    Giving Russia control of 20% of our uranium reserves FAR OUTWEIGHS the lameass crap you try to pretend is significant.


    As for the rest of your nonsense: UTTER BULLSHIT.

    Trump administration approves lethal arms sales to Ukraine


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...arms-sales-to-ukraine/?utm_term=.b706700c4f8d



    Trump administration to sell Patriot missiles to Poland

    https://www.defensenews.com/land/2017/07/06/trump-administration-to-sell-patriot-missiles-to-poland/


    Pompeo: US airstrikes in February killed ‘a couple hundred Russians’

    https://www.defensenews.com/land/2017/07/06/trump-administration-to-sell-patriot-missiles-to-poland/

    Trump's 'energy dominance' strategy is undercutting Russia's influence and business in Europe

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trum...dercutting-russias-influence-in-europe-2018-2


    Spare me BULLSHIT, please....
     
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    The Trump administration, what reasons did they give for doing what they did?
     
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    The Free Ride at America's expense is OVER, even for our "friends"....and it's about da**ed time we had a POTUS with the BALLS TO CONFRONT IT DIRECTLY, instead of worrying like a pack of little girls that the Eurosleaze (etal) "won't like us".

    Who gives a S**T, besides the Groveling Left.?
     
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    America needs allies. We cannot go it alone. Well, we could, but it would be from a much weaker position.

    Even the ****show that was Iraq we had allies by our side.
     
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    No you spare me the bullshit. You didn't even try to dispute what happened at the republican convention. Whatever happened since then could easily be covering up tracks after he realized he can't get away with it.

    Screw the uranium bullshit, like Russia even needs it to have nuclear deterrence or they could prevent us from having ours or nuclear power. Whether they had a corrupt business transaction or not, Clinton was hostile to Putin's interests and Trump is not. Though he's been under a lot of pressure to be due to the Russia investigation.

    And it's not that the NY Times was lying, assuming we're talking about the article from April 2015, it's that you're extrapolating their findings to an unreasonable degree, assuming that the worst must be true without adequate evidence.
     
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    By all means, please show "Russian collusion" at the GOP convention.

    I've shown PLENTY by Hillary and the dems.

    Obama KISSED PUTIN's ASS/ Trumped KICKS IT.

    As I SAID:


    Giving Russia control of 20% of our uranium reserves FAR OUTWEIGHS the lameass crap you try to pretend is significant.


    As for the rest of your nonsense: UTTER BULLSHIT.

    Trump administration approves lethal arms sales to Ukraine


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...arms-sales-to-ukraine/?utm_term=.b706700c4f8d



    Trump administration to sell Patriot missiles to Poland

    https://www.defensenews.com/land/2017/07/06/trump-administration-to-sell-patriot-missiles-to-poland/


    Pompeo: US airstrikes in February killed ‘a couple hundred Russians’

    https://www.defensenews.com/land/2017/07/06/trump-administration-to-sell-patriot-missiles-to-poland/

    Trump's 'energy dominance' strategy is undercutting Russia's influence and business in Europe

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trum...dercutting-russias-influence-in-europe-2018-2


    Spare me BULLSHIT, please....
     
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    Or just get the idiot democrats mad because they lost. I have no man crush buddy. They had bought and paid for the Clintons a long time ago so quit trying to throw BS against the wall and hoping it sticks. I'm not even going to bother reminding of all the donations and results in return because it's fairly obvious you nothing but a partisan hack.
     
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    It wasn't even a thing before almost 5 decades ago :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    It's what you have when you can only think and respond with 5 second sound bites and bumper sticker slogans. Very few of them have an objective neuron in their under-sized brains.
     
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    Yup. Did you see what I responded too? I guess not.

    That was in response to a statement of every president but Trump. It’s just not true. It’s a myth.
     
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    Indeed I did. And I merely paraphrased your comment, one that I found hilarious and completely lacking in honesty. Tell me, how long does an action need to be performed in sequence before it is considered customary? Clearly more than 50 years? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    When Nixon did it he broke custom.

    Simple question:

    You like facts or lies?

    Fact: Trump is not the only president to not show his taxes. Most presidents have NOT released taxes.

    Lie: Trump is the only president to not show his taxes.

    Frankly, you seem to just be trolling. Enjoy that.

    I state facts. I like facts. Facts are good. Reading anything more into it is all on you.
     
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    Simple question:
    Has EVERY president since Nixon shown tax returns?
    We agree on the facts.
     
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    So you didn’t answer my question, but I’ll answer yours:

    Nope. Gerald Ford. He’s got a lot of interesting tidbits about him.

    Which makes the “custom” of both presidential nominees releasing their taxes not starting until 1980. So not 50 years.
     
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    Because I got your point but you seemed to be evading mine. BTW, did not know about Ford. Thanks.
     
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    I think you just claimed I gave you the cold shoulder as in not responding to your post. If I missed one please point it out. The only communication between us I can find has a question open to YOU not me.
     
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    No need to, he posts pure BS nonsense.............derp.
     
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    The EU parliament cannot originate legislation, they are a joke. If there was any justice in the world most of the EU commission and parliament would be taken behind the chemical sheds and shot without a trial.
     
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    I didn't use the phrase russian collusion, but said something was off, as in suspicious behavior. I could understand somebody like Trump not caring about the details of the Republican party platform, but instead his team fought over ONLY language hostile to Russia regarding Ukrainian weapons. It's suspicious to non-Trumpians in the same way that the Clinton Foundation and Uranium One thing is suspicious to republicans. Here is what I'm talking about:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/08/republicans-russia-platform-fight-244672

    Oh please. Trump goes out of his way to be as nice to Russia as he can get away with. It's our former allies that Trump is rude to, other than Israel. Obama just tried to make nice with everybody.
     
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