Trump: 'I'd End Ukraine War in 24 Hours If President'

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  1. JohnHamilton

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    This is a bunch of bull about Trump and the Republicans. Your side is the one that wants to control the actions of human beings. You want to dictate our diets, tell us what cars to drive and control the flow of energy from the top of the government down. We have listen to this from total hypocrites like John Kerry and Al Gore, who live in giant mansions and fly around in private jets that spew more carbon in an hour than my automobiles will emit in a year.

    As for admiration of dictators, I remember the Primer of Canada, Trudeau, commenting about how nice it would be if he had powers like Xi. Whatever he thought was best would be done without the messy problems leaders have with a Congress or Parliament.

    I don’t care for Trump because of his personality and demeanor. I will not support him in the Republican primary when it comes time to vote. Still when I read foolishness like this, I can’t remain quiet.
     
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    Canada is a representative republic, like the US.
     
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    If Obama had dealt with it, we wouldn't be here today; regardless of Trump. Simple as that! Cowardice leadership by both Presidents. And now by Biden, the Chinese trader.
     
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    nothing like we saw with their Puppet Trump
     
  5. XXJefferson#51

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    It’s been acting like an authoritarian dictatorship since Trudeau became their PM.
     
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    It’s simple math if people would just give the effort: President Trump = putin wouldn’t dare.
    biden = putin invades immediately.
    See, simple.
     
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    Trump is no one’s puppet. World leaders respected him and either liked him or feared him.
     
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    lol, sure, they laughed at him, he was a joke to the world, Trump was the worst President in our lifetimes

    Trump's fragile ego made him easy to manipulate, it was his biggest weakness
     
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    Lets be real here, the only chance of this ending in a day would be if we gave the Ukrainian's the same treatment we gave the Kurds, and that is we make a ceasefire without their involvement agreeing to yield all territory to the aggressor, and we tell the Ukrainians to leave or be bombed to extinction from the area. That might seem outlandish and foolish, but its exactly how we handled things when we threatened Turkey if they were to attack the Kurds, and they went and attacked them anyway.
     
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    Who the hell cares who a President slept with. Ike had Kate Summersby... nobody cared because he President, not a priest. Kennedy had Marilyn.. nobody cared... he was President, not a priest. Clinton had an island filled with underage chicks... no one cared, he was President, not a priest. So why do you care who Trump sleeps with?
     
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    Josh, you are running away from the argument here. Saying you don't care does not condemn what Trump has done or his admiration of certain authoritarian figures. Trump takes no responsibilty but tries to claim all the credit for himself. Generally, authoritarians are narcissistic in nature, like Trump, and the proof is January 6th, the Insurrection Day where more than 1000 people tried to violently take over the government because they didn't like the election results. In the end, they acted more like a bunch of undisciplined 5 years olds who are acting out because they did not get their way, hence authoritarianism. Nor have you made a very hard choice in actually condemning the action but instead, quietly condoning the actions. But the fact is that the GOP embraces authoritarianism. Why else invite Orban to speak at the CPAC, the prmier conservative/GOP event in this country for the past decade or so? Denying that is not going to prove your argument. And Denying how the GOP acts in order to get their way and instead of putting on their big britches and trying to understand from their constituents is not what the GOP does. Look at how the GOP in the House and Senate want to dismantle Medicare and Social Security even though their own constituents, the people who actually voted for them that they don't want that. But hey, they will go ahead anyway. Or the HR 25 and a few other things out there. Or the hypocrisy with Illian Omar but yet, people who actually threatened other members of Congress now have a seat on the committees.

    As far as PM Treadeu is the PM of Canada. Parliament makes the laws and did pass those laws which Treadeu followed. And you call him a "dictator?" Oh please, you don't know what progressives want and you don't know what the policies of liberalism is. YOu never understood that, much less your own party you like to hold lean to.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-authoritarianism-isnt-going-anywhere-after-the-midterms

    https://harvardpolitics.com/point-of-no-return-the-authoritarian-parties/

    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...mocratic-experiment-and-an-authoritarian-gop/
     
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    The GOP wouldn't allow. The whole reason why Putin invaded in 2014 was because Ukraine went through a revolution to oust the current PM who was pro-Putin out of office. At that time, the Ukrainian military was not capable of preventing Russia from invading the Crimea or even the breakaway regions in Eastern Ukraine. So, what exactly should have Obama done other than place sanctions on Russia and Putin?
     
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    You did not bother the comment about the hypocrisy of Gore and Kerry, but I expected as much. When they have you eating grasshoppers, they will not be giving up their steaks and their personal jets.

    As for “Orban,” I have no idea who he, she, they are, but if he, she or they are crack pot rightists, they won’t get my support.

    As to the Treadeu comment he made it, but you once more ignored the issue.

    As for Omar, she was removed from the House Foreign Affairs Committee because of her anti-Semitic remarks. Other extremists, like Maxine Waters, have been left alone. Anti-Jewish rhetoric is out of bounds, but perhaps you disagree.
     
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    Trump has never been one to provide details of how he would do something.
     
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    Trump failed to end Covid-19 in 24 hours or even a year.
     
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    I don't think anyone feared him. It's hard to fear a man whose own FBI is conspiring against him. Trump ended up being Fauci's puppet.
     
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    Who the hell cares who a President slept with.
    Republicans sure did during Clinton's term.
     
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    Pretty sure, and this is just my opinion, literally no one respected him.
     
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    That wouldn't work. The Ukrainians will still fight. The Polish and Baltic states will still supply arms to Ukraine. Such a move would cause Poland and other countries to immediately begin nuclear weapons programs.

    The U.S. can declare a cease fire all it wants. This war is happening. Thinking otherwise is silly.
     
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    Have you been living under a rock?

    Over 74,000,000 respected him well enough to vote for him.

    Or are you one of those who still believe the 2020 election was a fraud?
     
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    Trump is an elderly old man too
     
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    Okay
     
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    We were not talking about Gore or Kerry. And yes, they were hypocritical when they were in office. But hypocrisy is part of what makes a politician, any politician, a politician, at least in the United States that is.

    Orban is the PM of Hungrary. He is literally the defacto authoritarian in Europe and a close friend of Putin. Even he has some limits, but the reason why he is popular to conservatives is because his policies towards migrants fleeing a war zone, namely Syrian refugees and his stance on LBBTQ issues, among other things.

    As for Treadeu, I am not ignoring anything, just your comment that he is the "premier." But to be more specific, the Canadian parliament did pass laws about Covid Restrictions that gave Treadeu that power on the decisions he made. Then you have that "trucking protest" that was about as small as a Smurf party because they didn't like the covid policy that they must be vaccinated if coming from the US. Trump made a similar request for immigrants who were in this country and NOT vaccinated in order to expedite their removal. A similar policy that Treadeu enacted with one exception. `

    https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/canadas-trucker-protests-what-know-about-freedom-convoy
     
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    For AAguy, it only matters if they are Democrats. Republicans are exempt for any and all infidelities.
     
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