Trump Impeachment Under Full Swing

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Trump Impeachment Hearing legitimate or not?

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comedy gold folks.
     
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    https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/4254300002

    So, you have nothing but hearsay and guesses. Do you really believe that would be enough to convince someone of a crime? Or are you just being partisan? Be honest.
     
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    It’s insane that Sondland goes there and spends all this time giving testimony just to get it all killed when he admits that everything he said is a guess.
    And it’s sad that liberals can’t read past headlines. Very telling about how informed they are!
     
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    And didn't have room in his 23 page opening spiel to say so.
     
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    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    That's because you provided no evidence to support the laws you say he broke. I read the laws, and imo they don't even apply.
     
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    If you say so.
     
  8. Jacob E Mack

    Jacob E Mack Well-Known Member

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    Now about the totality of evidence:

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/07/impeachment-trump-foreign-policy-turkey-syria/

    "In my last column, I argued U.S. President Donald Trump should be impeached because he has repeatedly shown he cannot be trusted to put the nation’s interest ahead of his own personal political aims. Since I wrote that column, Trump has publicly confirmed the validity of these concerns, most recently by calling for China to investigate the Biden family. If he’s willing to say something like that in the open, can anyone doubt that he’d sell the country out in private if he thought it would benefit him personally? For a good analysis of the situation, see Andrew Sullivan here.

    And remember: He did all of this to himself, voluntarily. Nobody made him chase weird conspiracy theories about Ukraine, Crowdstrike, and the Democratic National Committee server, and nobody forced him to withhold aid to Ukraine and pressure its president to keep digging into the family of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden (an issue Ukraine had already investigated and found no evidence of wrongdoing). Nobody pressured Trump into sending his personal lawyer to Ukraine to chase these will-o’-the-wisps. It was entirely Trump’s own idea to tell Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to work with U.S. Attorney General William Barr on this whole bogus business. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi didn’t tell him to commit impeachable offenses. In sum: He did all this on his own initiative."



    https://www.needtoimpeach.com/impeachable-offenses/

    https://www.justsecurity.org/64975/...e-crimes-doj-closes-case-without-explanation/

    https://www.justsecurity.org/66277/the-quid-is-a-crime-no-need-to-prove-pro-quo-in-ukrainegate/

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...-might-have-committed-in-this-ukraine-scandal

    https://www.vox.com/2019/5/29/18644304/trump-fifth-avenue-mazars-vance-constitution
     
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    Well it is my post. So yeah, I do.
     
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    "Hello, my name is curiosity...what's yours?"
    IMPEACHMENT!

    There is nothing wrong with the President of the United States looking into suspicious behavior.....and far from criminal.
     
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    But but but, the dem clown show says all the dem corruption is debunked without ever having an investigation!
     
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    There are too many Republicans in the senate that can keep Trump safe and there would be a 25% chance to totally impeach Trump and if Trump were to be impeached, chances are would be that he would be acquitted like Andrew Johnson, and Bill Clinton. Johnson's impeachment dealt with Edwin Stanton and Clinton's dealt with Monica Lewinsky. Trump is framed as a crook or maybe he is one but that remains to be proven. That's all I'll say for now. I will come back later.
     
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    Anyone that watched Hill's testimony and still defends Trump has not one shred of patriotism.
     
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    Asking a foreign ally to publicly announce an investigation against a political rival and withholding congressionally allocated tax-payer funds until they do so is extortion and a clear abuse of power. Why didn't Trump go through his own intelligence agencies? The reason is because the conspiracy theories about Biden and his son had been debunked long ago. Instead he formed a shadow gov't with Giuliani and Sondland and co. to circumvent his own gov't to pursue a domestic political agenda.
     
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    You are tying separate facts together to paint a picture. It's called conjecture. As for Joe Biden, it wouldn't matter if it was Joe Schmo. It looked suspicious and Trump along with others thought it should be looked at as long as they were looking into the conspiracy to frame Trump in 2016 for treason.
     

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