Trump intends to sign border deal to avoid another shutdown

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  1. Margot2

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    And yet you think we need buy into what you trying to preach. No thanks, I will stick with what the Demos base is saying. Looks like you will have to gulp down that spin from your kind. So as to not being out screaming in the streets again.

    Let us know when you merge back into reality.



    Congressional Democratic leaders could face a significant backlash from members of their liberal base should they compromise with the White House over funding for a border wall.

    “We just don’t see any reason why Democrats should be compromising,” Heidi Hess, the co-director of liberal advocacy group CREDO Action, told The Hill on Thursday. “This is Trump’s shutdown over a wall that is going to do nothing, that he promised Mexico would pay for.”

    “We actually have an opportunity and a mandate as Democrats and progressives to really show what we stand for and how we’re willing to stand up for our values and not compromise them,” she said. “It’s certainly our belief that what [incoming House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi and [Senate Minority Leader Chuck] Schumer should do.”.....snip~

    Read Newsmax: Dems Warn of Backlash If Leaders Cave on Funding for Wall | Newsmax.com


    Yes your kind really showed us what they stand for. LMAO.


    “Americans overwhelmingly voted for Democratic control of the House to put a check on Trump on exactly this kind of reckless behavior,” added Charles Chamberlain, the chair of grassroots progressive group Democracy for America.....snip~

    Read Newsmax: Dems Warn of Backlash If Leaders Cave on Funding for Wall | Newsmax.com


    Yep.....such a check on Trump that the Demos opened up their purse.
     
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  3. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

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    Meh, most of them were leftists. Nothing important to worry about.
     
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    The bill with more funding was when Ryan was still speaker lol
     
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    "I WIN!"

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    "US WINNERS ALWAYS WINS!"
     
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    Yet the Lame Stream Media highlighted Nancy Pelosi and Chucky Cheese Schumer. No money. Not one dime. Not one Dollar. Rubbed it all in Trumps face. Even with Plastic bits Pelosi saying Trump wont win on the wall. Even NPR went with that.

    Now here are the Demos giving up some money for the border wall. Over a billion. Pennies I tell ya, copper pennies.

    Trump wins and gets to show the country how Demos are weak on Securing the Nation. Weak on Crime. To top it off Trump is already out citing illegals crimes in this country.

    He also now has the upper hand on Immigration. DACA people know the Demos don't care for them. Plus the Demos even wanted to reduce beds in detention centers. Make illegal children sleep on hard floors in those cages BO the Peep had put up.

    Demos sure are making it easy for Trump in 2020. Albeit thank AOC and those Demos running for the Presidency who signed onto her Green New Deal/Communism Lite.
     
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    Your quote does not help you.

    Trump put hundreds of thousands of people out of work and screwed with the cash flow of thousands of Federal contractos (neither of which have been paid), for a month over a battle Trump already lost.

    And, in the end, Trump got less than he was offered on December 11th.

    Trump lost. Bigly. And resurrecting quotes and using them out of context isn't going to help you now.

    The same woman told Trump he didn't have the votes on December 11th.

    He doesn't have the votes, He doesn't have his party. He doesn't have the courts.

    He has to take what they're offering him.

    Pretend all you want, We know from the last three years that reality is not a Trumpster's friend.

    There will be no wall.
     
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    Trump wins.....Demos Lose.

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    Trump walks away from a two month old battle he started, with less than he was offered two months ago, and his idiot fans declare victory.

    That's the way it is in Trumpsterland. Brainwashed and pathetic!

    What a bunch of losers.

    Instead of peddling MAGA hats, Trump should be peddling "Born Loser" wind splits for pickups with Trump's face on them.
     
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    I dunno why you’re asking for direct quote... just listening to PMSNBC is enough to realize they want not Trump to succeed while climbing to every possibility he’s done wrong, and will fail.

    Come on, you’ve been here long enough. :hug:
     
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    Blaming Repubs and others for what your Demos did is whats pathetic. They dug down in their purse and came up with change saying nothing was down there.

    Looks like Trump got more than a dollar. More than a Dime.

    Make note Tom. Those aint Pesos the Demos threw on the table. Remember that as your Democracy For America and CREDO those Demo Grassroots people certainly will.
     
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    Uh oh.....Natty can't even respond. Trumps win has him triggered so much he even used the same pic. :roflol:

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    Yes that’s the ticket to stopping division making fun of people..... so tolerant lol
     
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    It's impossible to even put lipstick on this pig. Trump is and always has been a terrible negotiator a fraud and a terrible investor.

    He was known to be all these things when he was running and his promises were full of holes. He was elected and is supported by people who are completely lacking in intellectual curiosity and/or just plain bigoted. The racists on this forum support him, which tells you all you need to know about his base.
     
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    I know I'm being hard on Trump about this 'border security' debacle, but more than anything, I just wish that he had never created an Executive Order specifying an end-to-end "contiguous, physical wall or other similarly secure, contiguous, and impassable physical barrier" -- AND -- that he was going to make Mexico pay for it!

    Link to the Executive Order: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...ecurity-immigration-enforcement-improvements/ . I regret having to be the one to remind us of this, but I didn't write it! :hiding:

    He needs to declare a national emergency using his power as President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. He needs to SEAL THE BORDER WITH MEXICO SHUT TO EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE! The Mexican business community would FORCE their corrupt government in Mexico City to bring ALL the problems with illegals, 'caravans', 'migrants' and all the other bullshit to an END -- and they'd do it quickly! Mexico needs normal business and commerce with the United States much, much more than we need it with Mexico.... Once the Mexicans fix THEIR problem, that begins on THEIR side of the border, Trump can open the border again (but reserve the right to close it again, too!) Best of all? It wouldn't cost the United States a PENNY!

    Sure, the ACLU and other hyperliberal 'aliens-rights groups' would raise hell about it, but Trump could simply remind them that he's GOT the power to do this, and that if they don't like it, they can go whine to the hyperlib judges on the Federal courts, file briefs, create lawsuits, and, then go "piss and moan" about it to their friends in the America-hating, Left-wing media "news" organs....

    Sealing the border SHUT is a strategy that would WORK! :twisted:
     
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    It's not over until the fat man signs.
     
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    Monthly trade over that border is more than 40 billion, about 40% going south. Your idea would trash the US economy.
     
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    There will be a wall! In spite of what Libs/Dems want to call the barrier, there will be a wall! America wins!!
     
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    No, it wouldn't "trash" the U. S. economy, Doug.

    For one thing, it wouldn't take the Mexicans more than two weeks to send their paramilitary police force into action and get totally RID of all the 'caravans' and run off all the throngs of 'migrants'. Are you seriously suggesting that even if we sealed the border with Mexico shut for several MONTHS that it would "trash" the U. S. economy?! For another thing, consider the sheer SIZE of the U. S. economy versus that of Mexico... there's really no comparison at all.

    Now, take a good look at the information at the Foreign Trade link here: https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html

    Like I said, Doug, Mexico (and Mexican businesspeople) need the U. S. a hell of a lot more than we need them... especially for the relatively short period of time it would take those businesspeople to make their corrupt government get things cleaned up over there.
     
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    It's ridiculous to claim that closing off trade with America's 3rd largest trading partner would not have a devastating impact on the US economy.

    And all for caravans that haven't gotten in due to current security procedures.
     
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    Still peddling the Russian propoganda I see!
     
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    How long do you think it would take the Mexican businesspeople to raise enough hell and FORCE their corrupt, frightened bureaucrats in Mexico City to bring out the paramilitary police and "flush their own toilet"...? This would not take long at all, Doug.

    Did you take a look at our deficit with Mexico (at the link I provided)? C'mon, man -- who needs who more? Especially given that we wouldn't need to shut the border completely for very long at all! Best of all -- having MEXICO fix their own problems, which THEY have allowed to splatter over on us in the United States, wouldn't cost you or me one single penny! We wouldn't have to pay for a "wall" at all -- think about that!

    [​IMG]. Here's the Mexican paramilitary police force -- they CAN do the job!
     
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    If you can find me someone who has been in charge of any position in the federal legislative or executive or judicial branch that has not given approval for something they believe to be "immoral," especially someone who has been in the government for as long as Pelosi, then you have found someone who has no ethics at all.

    Neither Pelosi, nor any rational Democrat, is going to lose sleep over this vote.
     
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    Believe me, if and when he signs, it's not over.
     

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