Trump is considering Pardon for Edward Snowden!

To this I can only reply, "wow, just wow."

I honestly can't decide if you are playing dumb, or if you're not playing. I will say one thing, at least you did take my advice and Google. That's some progress anyway.

Giftedone, I'm sorry, but you've demonstrated throughout this thread that this is a topic you know nothing about. How about this: Educate yourself and maybe someday you can come back with all my questions answered and make a reasonable and intelligent case for why Snowden should be pardoned. I won't wait up, but if you start now, you should eventually learn something.

 

Just **** it. Connection you want? Uhh, how about the government can and has sorted and recorded more than just meta data.....they've collected millions of conversations, text messages, etc.

And Snowden confirmed it.

My best friend works for AT&T. I know things that'd wake you up.

 

What a hilarious dodge - complete self delusion .. not an ounce of commentary - just insults from the peanut gallery - reduced to a pile of dribble - curled up on the floor - murmuring to yourself.

Your latest nonsense claim was your denial that there was an En Mass spy program. so who is "playing Dumb" by jumping to a completely different page... pretending you were not just given the smack down - because yet another of your nonsense claims was proven false - in your desperate attempt to apologize for massive increases to Gov't Power - on an Orwellian scale.

Pathetic your hate for the founding principles - Republicanism - and the right to privacy.

 

And ... lets say Trump gives really a pardon to Snowden, what then with your MAGA cap and believe and cheering to Trump?

 

Thanks to Edward Snowden your friend at AT&T can sleep well at night with a clear conscience without sticking his neck out.

 

That remains to be seen.

 

One of the best lines Stephen Colbert ever crafted was "AT&Treason".

 

It is not uncommon for those who wear the MAGA Hat - and/or the Red hat - to hate the founding principles, and the principles of Republicanis aka Rhino's

Your hatred of essential liberty is noted.

 

Your distortion of liberty is noted. One has no just cause to take the law or judgment into ones own hands. Especially when it involves national security and the personal information of millions of people. These traitors have broken their oaths and disseminated classified information to strangers and enemies the world over. They belong in prison.

 

WHO is it that have broken their Oaths? - A dirty Scofflaw Government attempts to hide
its filthy Criminality in the muddy Obscura of claiming that Criminality to be "a classified
Government Secret" - and YOU have the mindless, temerity to accuse those who EXPOSE
this Criminality of "distorting of liberty" --- It is clear to all with an intact Rational Mind and
an unbroken Moral Compass exactly who it is that have broken their oaths, and who they are
.......................................................................... that are the Traitors. who distort liberty

It would be nice to be able to hide Crime & the perverse distorted Logic that defends it, as being
"TOP SECRET" - However these squirmings, are Bald, Naked and clearly visible

 

So you can't explain the connection to Snowden.

 

OK this would be a good place to start. You said there was a program called "En Mass." You're right, I have not heard of a program under that name. So why don't you post the links to this program so I can read about it?*





*my guess on how this is going to go- he'll post info on a program I've already mentioned in this thread!

 

Snowden exposed the ****ing illegal taps. How hard is this for you? FFS

 

What program are you referring to? How has the legality or illegality been determined?

 

You can't even get the term right "Essential Liberty" is not the same as "Liberty"

Says who ? The above is an absurd and ridiculous claim to anyone other than someone who loves Totalitarianism

Even more patent nonsense - the reverse of which is true. Justification is especially strong when it involves the security of the citizens of this nation .. from the Traitors who have broken their oaths - "Illegitimately using authority" to violate the security and rights of every individual in the nation.

Your values are twisted -Let us help you unwind

 

I never sad there was a program called "En Mass" - you are confused once again.

As far as links are concerned - I already posted a link pertaining to En Mass surveillance.

You are in the depths of denial - desperately trying to move the goalpost to avoid the fact that your Totalitarian leanings have been exposed - no respect have you for essential liberty , the principles of Republicanism.

 

A foolish Doctor prescribes a solution that is worse than the ailment. You are as bad as are they. Where the data was secure. Now it is not. Likewise much else in 1.7 million documents in who knows whose hands. That decision was not Snowdens, Mannings, or Assanges to make. They deserve prison.

 

Maybe you can Translate some kind of coherent thought - never mind argument - out of your post - cause I am having trouble.

We are all aware that data was stolen. The question being addressed is whether or not the crimes of gov't justified law breaking.

The floor is yours - but worry not - the question is not going away - and your position is only going to get uglier - and uglier from here.

 

I think the traitors should go to prison for reasons I have already stated. You think they should be regaled for your own stated reasons. The decision belongs to others.

 

I agree that the Traitors who initiated the En Mass Spy Program on US citizens should go to Jail - not Snowden and certainly not Assange .. huge difference between the two.

You are confused - dazed and not understanding what is in front of you .. and the question is not going away - despite your desperate attempts to avoid and deflect.

The question being addressed is whether or not the crimes of gov't justified law breaking.

You wish to claim "they broke the Law" and that is that - the decision belongs to "Others" - pretending the question does not exist - pretending the law is always just - and civil disobedience - or other - is never justified.

Baaaaaaa Baaaaaaa Baaaaaaaa - oh spotted one.

 

You forgot this part of my post:

Your link had several programs listed but the first one was the metadata program which, as I predicted, was a program that I mentioned in post #103 of this thread!

So you are in fact being purposefully obtuse, to the point of writing posts that seem incredibly ignorant. You didn't know what the program was about, even though you provided a link that mentioned it and I actually said what it was. You really don't know anything about this topic.

So I can't imagine how displaying such blatant ignorance on a topic you seem to be pretty passionate about is supposed to make your case. But please please tell me what I'm "in the depths of denial" about? I'm getting the idea that the more you post, the more of your ignorance on this topic you display so let's here it!

 

I notice you do not address anything I said in this post... other than make a false accusation that I did not know what the En Mass Spying program was about - I was the one who brought it up and posted a link.

You were were not able to come up with one example the Gov't classifying information which if released might be embarrassing to the Gov't - or reveal crimes - or for any non legitimate reasons to hide this information from the US public.

It was you that feigned to be unaware of any examples -- calling "Prove it Prove it" then when examples were giving to you then cried "Your ignorant " and other accusations as you desperately try to project your own failings onto others.

You should go visit that link I posted to you previously on Projection Therapy.

 

"En Mass Spying program" why do you call the metadata program that? That doesn't make sense. How do you expect to be taken seriously?

 

Incredible Ignorance is most clearly seen in people who serve, with Obsequious Subservience
a blatantly Criminal Authority. -- And instead of working to strip and Expose that Authorities
Criminality. They would rather Lick the Boot and attempt to defend the indefensible and Abuse
.................................................................................................................................. those who stand ready to Act on Principal

Such - Abject Sycophants are ever ready to Ignore the Facts of their Authorities Criminality
and rather embrace the Fiction that such Authority has Legitimacy. They are ever ready to follow
..... . Criminal orders without question, and so take on all of the aspects of.- "The Banality Of Evil"
..... They are "Lil" people ever in Denial as to the depth of their own Complicity in that Criminality

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............................................................................. we might add here to Hannah's quote : Legitimacy & Criminality
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