Trump is ticked off, and it's easy to see why.

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Deep breath and let me read that again

    Yep! So nice! Can we put it to music?
     
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    Sorry but the justice department does not operate on whataboutisms. It operates on clear evidence on a case by case basis.
     
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    Hey Maw! it’s dat sum blokes on da internetz. He mus’ be rite coz he has one of dem poddy casty things!

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/just-the-news/
     
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    Looks like this is holding true!
     
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    Trump thought he was above the law, finding out he is not ticks him off
     
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    Trump shouldn't have screwed over his employees and his lawyers - cause that's where all the information about his potentially illegal
    acts are coming from.

    Why haven't Hillary and Biden been indicted? Because their staff liked them and they hired competent people. I have no problem with Hillary
    or Biden going to jail ... but the big difference on why they probably won't? Because their staff likes them. Trump has dicked over everyone around him
    and now they are spilling all his secrets. Karma is a biotch.
     
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    It's not the possession of the documents that is the big problem here. If trump hd JUST returned the documents when asked (as Biden did) then there would
    NOT HAVE been a problem. The big problem with Trump is that it appears he tried to HIDE documents and LIED about keeping
    them. As with what happed to Nixon - it wasn't the crime - it was the COVER-UP that brought him down.
     
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    Funny, what was Hillary doing when she destroyed 30,000 + emails and smashed Blackberries? Biden still has records out at the Universities of Delaware and Pennsylvania.

    But perhaps the hypocrisy is okay. If this eliminates Trump from the race, perhaps we could end up with a decent candidate to run against Biden or Newsom. The trouble is Merrick Garland and the Justice Department should not be determining who gets to run for president. That sets a dangerous precedent.
     
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    Have they stopped Trump from running? Nothing the DOJ does is going to stop Trump from running.
     
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    Oh puh-leeze, everyone knows what a crock this is. I am surprised if Trump is pissed though. What did he expect?
     
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    If he’s convicted, it might since he will be a convicted felon. At any rate all of these lawsuits, and there could be another one in Georgia, will distract him from campaigning and drain his resources. That’s the whole idea.

    I wonder if the Democrats will do this to all of the Republicans who are elected president in the future? What if Tim Scott were to win? Who will the Democrats persecute with lies and strategic law suits?

    Trump is far from the first. Many people who have worked for or supported him have been indicted. The message is clear. If you support Trump, we might go after you. Stay in your foxhole and let US run the country. If you get out of line, we might go after you too.
     
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    I'm more concerned that others weren't charged than I am that Trump is being charged. That's the right thing to do considering what he has done. It was probably the right thing to do for the others too. This kind of thing needs to be taken extremely seriously.
     
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    Being a convicted felon won’t stop him from running.

    The message is clear. Anyone supporting Trump at this point is either a terrible person or a complete idiot, or both.
     
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    He got you all riled up about Hillary, then decided not to follow through. Yet, you don't feel deceived.
    Oct 2016 - before election:
    If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your (missing email) situation,” Trump said, “because there has never been so many lies, so much deception.”
    https://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/09/politics/eric-holder-nixon-trump-presidential-debate/index.html

    Dec 2016 - after election:
    After the chants started at the President-elect’s post-election “thank you” rally in Michigan, he responded, “That plays great before the election – now we don’t care, right?”

    He also said the idea of prosecuting Clinton is “just not something I feel very strongly about.”

    https://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/09/...-hillary-clinton-lock-her-up-chant/index.html
     
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    100 thousand times this
    We are seeing what happens when you back a rabid dog into a corner and it realizes there is no escape.

    More and more people are starting to see what the right has become and the steps they are trying to take to be able to overrule the voices of the people.
     
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    Details, details, details John. The main difference between Biden/Pence and Trump is that Biden and Pence both called the appropriate authorities when classified documents were discovered, allowed the FBI to conduct further searches, and fully cooperated. Trump, meanwhile, never fully cooperated, has pretty much lied about everything from "they were all declassified" to "they are mine" to all the other falsehoods he claimed. In essence, the intent by Trump was to obstruct whereas Biden and Pence, a Republican, were not. This has historically been the way the FBI and DOJ have handled the discovery of classifed documents.

    https://apnews.com/article/biden-po...ichael-pence-7e616d65db8a76a078d1ec9268c13a77
     
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    Complete and total banana Republic tactics.
     
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    No.

    Hillary took no classified info at all. A grand total of _three_ documents, marked confusingly, were found on her server. If it had been any other human in the world except for Hillary Clinton, no one would have cared. It wouldn't even have risen to black mark on the employment record.

    Pence and Biden, their staffers accidentally packed up some things. Trump, he deliberately ordered that a whole bunch of things be taken. Totally different. Intent matters.

    And? That's not a crime. Doing it deliberately is. Refusing to give them back is. Sharing them with others is. Hillary, Biden and Pence did none of that. Trump did.

    That's completely fictional. Hillary destroyed zero classified documents.

    Sure they do. If they committed a crime, they'd be charged. That's how Democrats do things.

    You look to be projecting. Your side politicizes law enforcement and hides crimes by their own, so you assume Demcorats must be equally corrupt. That is not the case. We are not like you.
     
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    Trump should have just deleted 30,000 emails that were subpoenaed and destroyed electronic devices that were subpoenaed and then he would have been a okay!

    Of course you have to be a Democrat to get away with that sort of thing
     
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    I agree, the message is very clear. If you work for Trump odds are you are lying scumbag and if you've done something illegal it's probably going to be found out.
     
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    Agree with me or I will insult you....lame.
     
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    Instead of arguing that the information presented is incorrect I'm going to use a left-wing biased "fact check" source to try to discredit the information based on who the source is instead of actually trying to prove that the information is incorrect....
     

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