Trump pardons former Army Ranger convicted of killing Iraqi prisoner

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  1. Questerr

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    Obama did not pardon him. Trump did. The president does not control the military's parole process.

    It doesn't matter who Behenna THOUGHT Mansur MIGHT be, he had no legal authority to threaten him with murder and had no right to kill the man who fought back against that threat.
     
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    Thank you for confirming exactly what I said.
     
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    Democrats totally ignored who paroled the former Ranger Lt.

    https://www.armytimes.com/news/your...-former-us-soldier-who-killed-iraqi-prisoner/
     
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    Man Bernie just want to let murders vote, Trump wants them to live next door to you.
     
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    I have reported this since I finished the books by two Generals. General Franks tells a complete history of both wars and then had it confirmed by a second General named Mike DeLong. But i was not confirming you as I was telling it as the two books explain it.

    I often have shown the two books including photos of the books.

    I find Democrats still refuse to read the two books. Both books would greatly enlighten them as to the story of both the wars, Afghanistan then Iraq. They would learn how much of an iron grip on this was had by General Franks. Franks got very angry at the Chiefs of Staff and told them to mind their own business in so many words.

    Franks committed to that war with the total commitment by Bush that Franks was doing it his way.

    Most readers do not yet understand that Franks told Bush up front that if he was going to have Bush or the Sec of defense trying to run the show, Franks would simply retire as he planned to prior to either war.

    Bush could have turned him down and selected a different General but he did not.

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    Only two soldiers. The remaining soldiers disagree and the video shows him helping the prisoner.
     
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    Obama paroled him in 2014.
     
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    The right thing to do but you have to be careful, you can't give guys carte blanche with them thinking they can just kill at will and the president will pardon them.
     
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    This pardon proves that Democrats favor the enemy that fought our own troops.
     
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    Total commitment apparently now means "a tiny fraction of the troops actually necessary to secure Afghanistan".
     
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    The pardon proves the Republicans are pro-murder so long as the victim is non-white/non-Christian.
     
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    I was in the American army. it stuns me to read people think you win wars and the enemy is not killed.
     
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    He killed him under Bush but was convicted under Obama. Obama didn't pardon him, Trump did.
     
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    Please demonstrate where the President has any control or authority over the military justice parole process.
     
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    I was in the American Army. It stuns me to read people think you can murder civilians and not empower the enemy in an insurgency.
     
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    The pardon proves the GOP care for and empathise with the armed forces.
     
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    The GOP empathize with murderers? I believe that.
     
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    Good catch. We actually only committed approx 1000 of our troops to the war. And they were spotters who told our bombers where to drop the bombs. But the actual fighting the taliban was done by Afghani men there. Franks disclosed in his book that he turned over to the forces of North Afghanistan many many millions of dollars to urge them to fight and to arm them.

    Take Texas and imagine you have 1000 of our troops all over TX. Franks came close to not losing a man in Afghanistan.

    The northern alliance recalled how Bush's father handled Saddam where he told the people to revolt then turned a blind eye so they got slaughtered by Saddam Hussein. They were finally persuaded that the Son Bush would not abandon them.
     
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    Not that I don't believe you but;
    1. What was your service number?
    2. Unit?
    3. Specialism?
     
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    Yeah, let's hear your army details again?
     
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    Obama paroled him in 2014.
     
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    My service number was my social, the fact you don't realize that shows you to be a ****ing dinosaur whose service was decades before any modern war.

    My unit was the 501st MI Bn, specifically the ACE platoon attached to 1st Armored Division HQ, and my specialty was signals intelligence analysis, meaning I actually had access to the information confirming that the murder of Iraqi civilians by US troops was used to recruit by the insurgency.
     
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    I never murdered anyone during my service.
     
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    We picked a specific ethnic group to support, driving the other ethnic groups into alliance with the Taliban and AQ. It didn't work as history shows.
     

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