Trump, Pelosi, Schumer spar on border wall in Oval Office

Five Thirty Eight isn't that the same people that had Clintons chance of being elected over 70%
yah like anything they put out is creditable

 

Every place is a sanctuary for lawbreaking employers like Open Borders Donnie.

 

Democrats who used to tell us to stay out of Bill Clinton sex life seemed to be obsessed with trump's. If you people had standards back in the nineties and held Bill Clinton accountable for his many many misdeeds you would be in a lot better position today and trump wouldn't have stood a chance.

Democrats be like.. Trump says he grabs girls by the pussay and they let him because hes rich and that makes him evil, while Behind the scenes they use tax dollars to bribe sex crime victims of democrats with tax payer money and give everybody involved a pass. Nancy Pelosi has the dirt on the democrats and she will be your leader until she dies.

 

Trump promised a "big beautiful wall!" that "Mexico" would pay for.

Americans do not want Trump squandering their money on the silly Trump®Wall that he promised Mexico would pay for, either.

"Would you favor or oppose building a wall along the entire border with Mexico?"

FAVOR: 38%.......... OPPOSE: 57%
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Nor do Americans want their government shut down because Congress won't give Trump the American taxpayer's money for his "big beautiful wall!" that he promised "Mexico" would pay for.

"WHAAAA! WALLLLL! WHAAAA!"
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Maybe he should ask Putin to bail him out again.

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Nope, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the "moral" party who somehow think they deserve to be in charge because of it.

The GOPs increasingly distant relationship with morality is their's to own. It has nothing to do with either Democrats, RINOs or the many real conservatives who want nothing to do with the twelve year old in chief.

That's some warped reasoning there but it does beg the question: do you think Trump should not have stood a chance based on the firmament of your own moral compass or is that you really don't care as long the person doing the dirty happens to call themselves a Republican?

Nope, it's because if a Democrat had done that in the past while running for office, Republicans wouldn't know where the hissy fit should end and the screaming abdabs should begin but if it's someone claiming to be an "R", they be like: "We're cool".

They've lost that posture now. Can't use it again but you keep trying to by lecturing the rest of us about "standards".

Laughable!

One thing is for certain. She'll be leader of the house in a few short weeks so this should get interesting.

And still no wall and still no cash from Mexico to pay for it.

 

The truth is that bill Clinton makes trump look like a angel. Nobody take Clinton worshippers seriously. Listening to a Bill Clinton defenders attack trump about sex is like listening to Hitler lecture about anti-Semitism. Don't expect you to understand.

The people who use tax dollars to bribe the victims of sex crimes committed by democrats into silence and then give everyone involved a pass are in no position to lecture me about morals.

Democrats made it so winning was all that mattered. Republicans are willing to give trump the same pass that democrats gave Clinton to be fair, Even though it could be argued that the pass democrats gave Bill Clinton is way worse than the pass we give trump.

Don't you like fairness?

Democrats cheering open borders is going to be great for 2020 keep it up. So will Nancy. She represents the kind of people democrats are perfectly.

 

What I don't understand is how the party of superior "standards" can't bring themselves to be better than or more morally opprobrious than their supposedly contemptuous opposition?

Um, they're not lecturing you. You're lecturing them about "standards" when you obviously don't have any.

OMFG!

And that's because they don't have any standards which is the complete opposite of their core stance for at least the last 30 years. They won't be able to use that "standards" claim ever again. Stand back from the situation. That's a major strategic loss. Major!

It could be argued that way if someone was delusional or under the influence of mind-bending
pharmaceuticals.

Oh the "talk radio" double twist. Impressive!

So what is it you want fairness or "standards" because in this context, you obviously can't claim to have both?

I have no problem with you building a wall as long as you respect the campaign promise (you know because of your "standards") and get Mexico to pay for it.

If that's the case, have at it and let future GOP members grab as many ******* as they may.

Not my place to judge.

 

known sex offender bill Clinton gets a pass from you people. So does Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats who use tax dollars to bribe the victims of Democrats into silence with tax dollars. That's why when you scream about trump nobody takes you seriously. Infact I encourage you to do it more. Tell us why trump is the devil and white Clinton gets a pass. Its forum gold.

Listening to a Democrat lecture me about standards is like listening to Hitler lecture me about anti-Semitism.

Talk to me when you demand that Nancy Pelosi reveal who got sexual assault crimes bribed into silence with tax dollars.

 

I'm not screaming about anything. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the GOPs previous stance on standards and morals and the laughable way you think that can somehow still apply.

It's not my loss but you just can't see it. For the last 30 years the GOP has relied on the support of The Family Research Council, American Family Association, Traditional Values Coalition etc.

They're the ones who have been corporately lecturing us all on our moral failings. Now they've gone full on Trump that's a huge amount of political capital to be squandered. They can never be taken seriously ever again.

I'm a centrist independent of the sort the GOP is going to need a lot more of going forward.

And just FYI it's you not me that started the theme in this thread about Democrats (or anybody else) not having any "standards". I never mentioned it once except in response to you. As far as I'm concerned, as long as it's consenting adults, it's none of my business. I'm not aligned with the "curtain twitchers".

 

It's amazing how many demorcrats deny being democrats. Democrats deny they are democrats to lend their post credibility because democrats have none.

This battle was fought in the nineties and you guys won. Clinton lowered the bar. I remember all the democrats saying it was just sex and stay out of Clinton's sex life and now they are obsessed with trump who hasn't even settled a sexual assault like their hero.

Then there's all the democrats that use tax dollars to buy silence of sex kind victims committed by democrats and not a Democrat dare say a word.

So when you scream about trump say he grabs women by the p*** at they let him Cuz hes rich doesn't even measure up to the deeds that John Conyers or Bill Clinton do and that everyone gave them a pass for.

Democrats are so clueless they have no idea why no one takes them seriously when they complain about trump's affairs.

 

I am a centrist independent and I could happily vote for a serious candidate like Jon Huntsman or John Kasich but for now, you're right, I'll be voting Democrat for as long as the GOP is Trump's backyard.

No, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the party that used to lecture us all on "standards" and morality embracing a candidate that knows neither.

Going forward, if they come out with this crap again it's going to be side-splittingly funny.

On a serious note, it's an embarrassing and huge platform loss.

It's not even Trump I'm talking about. He doesn't know any better. It's anybody within or supportive of the GOP who has the unmitigated gall to question the "standards" of anybody else while supporting him in office.

Laughable.

I think the recent blue wave which swept the House speaks a little differently.

 

You've made your position clear in your posts.

You're trying to deny now based on the literal interpretation of one post. Fine, but you're not fooling anybody.

 

Prices tied to wages is a myth. Companies that have gone out of the country for low wages do not lower prices. Prices depend on what people are willing to pay. Companies have been putting the money they save from lower wages in their pocket.

 

Does anyone really care about a government shutdown? We have a big bloated federal government that looks out for Wall Street not the American people. That is regardless of party. Shut it down!

 

Unlike righties, I'm not trying to fool anybody. If the popular vote were the deciding factor, Trump would not be our president. That would be my point that you want to contest.

 

What's false.

Hillary only won the mythical "Popular Vote Election" because Trump was too busy running for President to oppose her.

Trump could have easily done rallys in Democrat areas and pandered to libs and picked up millions of votes.

But fortunately Trump was more interested in winning than whining.

 

"My dad can beat up your dad!" That not far from what you're saying.

Bernie could have won 70% of the vote if.... if ..... if.. -he hadn't been so busy fighting off the bogus attacks!!!!!

Hillary could have won the electoral college if ... if .... --if the people in the flyover states were educated.

I could be rich today if ... if ..................

Shall we keep making it up? Or should we grow up intellectually?

 

Um in case you aren't paying attention the Congress is controlled by Republicans who are controlled by Trump.

 

Well I think you can keep the electoral college but proportion the votes for each candidate acvording to the percentage of the popular vote in the state. That move alone would enfranchise the democratic voters in the Red states and the Republican voters in the blue states.

 

I'm not the person that said Hillary would be POTUS if it weren't for that pesky Constitution.

Carry on

 

Go pass that Constitutional Amendment. Keep us updated.

 

Why do you think that would require a Constitutional amendment? Be specific.

 

If you want to grow up "intellectually", I would suggest to stop being a Marxist and start understanding the Constitution of the United States of America and start supporting it.

Intellectual discussion then can move forward without you whining about popular vote, which doesn't matter one iota, according to our Constitution.