Trump Says He Is Halting FEMA Wildfire Aid To Calif.

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  1. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    What "typo"? No, it was the totally garbled sentence....I couldn't understand it because I only speak English...still can't..."not make private citizens whole again" ?? Were they torn apart?

    Then it adds ""private citizens whole again else where is my check?"""

    Uh, "else where is my check" ?? That makes no sense...



    Well, it's good you keep your posts to one word but it still didn't make any sense to me...
     
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    Someone is triggered
     
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    Robert did indeed appear triggered.

    He cannot quote me where I wrote "no fire fighting and no undercutting will be done."

    Prepaying of FEMA has nothing to do with what I have written.

    If Trump cuts FEMA funding, then, yes, peoples' lives are in danger.
     
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    Yes, the power of the purse resides in the House alone - not the White House.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am saying is it wrong of Republicans not to help Democrat states because they don't like the party
     
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    So you will support a Democrat president withholding federal education funds for states that are anti-gay or disaster funds for Republican states hit by floods or hurricanes? What about states that don’t have gun control, will you support highway funds being pulled from them?

    Dangerous precedent y’all are cheering on.
     
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    That's a mouthful you said there. You could apply that to "the wall" too. It is wrong of Democrats not to help America because they don't like the President.
     
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    Y'all aren't comparing apples to apples. Kalifornia prohibits wise forest management while with holding information from ICE and even WARNS illegals ICE is coming. Y'all can do the gay thing because the law says you can. No need for retribution there.
     
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    How is it not similar? Flood zones are known as are high risk hurricane areas. Levies are underfunded and missmanaged and people continue to build in hurricane prone zones.
    Do you support a Democrat president withholding funds from those areas?

    Dry weather and high winds were larger contributing components to the fires than “raking”. Just about the only people that believe raking would have prevented this are trump and the people that blindly believe all the excrement he spews.

    So if you are supportive of this president using federal funds to punish states he doesn’t like, will you have the integrity to support it when a democrat president does the same?
     
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    Except the wall has questionable results.
    If it was such an issue why didn’t the republicans fund it while the had complete control?

    Democrats have passed the same bill that previously passed the republican held senate which is now not even being allowed to have a floor vote. What changed?
     
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    Trump changed: no one else.
     
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    They get the same help I do but if you want to equalize all government funding flowing into states on a per capita basis and it has to be equalize go ahead and propose it. Or perhaps we can look at the specifics like what we are talking about here, disaster relief which under your plan would also have to be equalized.
     
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    I live in fire country. Raking is part of forest health but it is far more than that. The Kalifornia fires were exacerbated by pine needles on peoples roofs. Here we have fire awareness programs where individuals are responsible for their property. Free brush pick ups. From my house I see three different National Forests. They cut brush continuously and pile it up for a later burn. There is much that can be done. If you live in a flood zone....pay the insurance and live with it.
     
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    Republicans control the Presidency, the House and the Senate, if they really wanted a wall we would of had one

    that said, dems are all for walls where they are needed and wanted and will work... what we are against is a wall of china across the entire border

    and that is of no defense of Trump not helping disaster victims from dem states - sad you would even try to use that as a defense
     
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    I've no love for CA, it's gun laws, high cost of living, nanny-state attitude. However ...

    Most of the burned areas in CA have been in national forests or began there. The Federal government is in charge of those forests, and are responsible for those fires that begin there. The state is not at fault for that.

    Fires that spread into cities were incredibly rare until recent years. Conditions have changed, fires are more explosive than ever before.

    Trump doesn't know what he is talking about. He is lashing out at CA over fires because he gets a lot of hate from prominent liberals there. Because Trump is not the President fo the USA, he is the President of his Base Voters.

    In his attitude that is, which is much like a bully on a school playground.
     
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    I wonder how much the Repubs in this thread that are yammering about Federal Forests being mismanaged by the State of California would be willing to spend to continuously rake California's 33 Million acres of Forest?

    I'm pretty sure that if any significant money were dedicated to that endeavor, The Right would be tossing turds about lefty snowflakes wasting billions every year to keep their forests raked.
     
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    So you will support a Democrat cutting aid to red states?

    Yes or no?
    Or are you a politician that cannot answer yes or no questions?
     
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    False Premise: most grown ups know that the wall isn't going to make much of a positive difference. Also from any poll that I've seen, most Americans don't want a wall.
     
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    It's not one of the answers you are looking for but if the State
    He has base voters in every state.
     
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    Of course, every politician does. But Trump will be thinking that CA is relatively weak for him, that's a liberal stronghold that dislikes him. He is not politically sophisticated enough to comprehend he is harming a part of his base, so screw 'em.
     
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    I believe your answer got cut short.

    I am not looking for a specific answer, just wanting to see how far republicans are willing to go to hurt other Americans over pure politics.
     
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    sad isn't it, but it could get even worse if dems return the favor when they take power, could be the start of another civil war
     
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    I hope Democrats work on restoring proportional representation, ending gerrymandering, enacting voter protections and ethics / corruption rules rather than getting even. Someone has to be the adults in the room — and republicans have shown they are completely unable to fulfill that roll.

    After that work on education, healthcare, infrastructure and tax reform.
     
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    if republicans can change the rules anytime they want then it does democrats no good to follow rules that republicans will not follow themselves

    republicans have taken over the SC with their changes to a far right court.... that has to be undone even if dems also have to cheat and increase the sc judge count and seat the new judges with 50 votes - republicans have destroyed civility and it will effect us for years to come - the only way this changes is if the rules change to require the minority party have to consent to any and all rule changes going forward and that will not happen until republicans lose any ill-gotten gains from their cheating - republicans can not be rewarded for cheating
     
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