Trump Says He Is Halting FEMA Wildfire Aid To Calif.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no one ever said they would be 100% whole again, you help a city or state rebuild, it's what we always do.. well accept for Trump to dem states, how partisan
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does Bill Lockyer have to do Fema and California fires?
     
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    Their public pension system is Billions in the red. No doubt at some point they will be looking for a Federal bailout.
     
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    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    Only liberals.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Born here, raised here and almost all of my life has been spent living in CA. And some tweep alleges I hate my state. I love the state, can't stand the democrats running this state.

    i have also been in most of the lower 48 states plus been to Canada, Scotland, Germany and Holland. Oh and Mexico.
     
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  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks since i meant to check out the pension of the public workers. My son in law collects a huge monthly check from his retirement. Moon beam reported a surplus and he also claims he had a rainy day fund well into the millions of dollars.
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good for you. As a former teacher, do you have any idea why the overwhelming number of your colleagues detest the Republican party?
     
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    Have you any hands on experience with PG&E. I do and I am not talking as a customer. I sold a home to one of their senior top engineers and he told me plenty about PG&E. I am not here to trash PG&E or their management but if proven they did wrong to our forests and private property owners, the company will pay big time. A problem for PG&E revolves around government ordering them to divest either their electric production or their power lines. They chose to retain the power lines and sold off the electric production. Still people do not deserve to be burned out and killed. Still one might wonder had Government not forced them to sell their power production if things would be a lot better. It boils down to money a lot of the time. Government cut off PG&E from money.
     
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    JakeStarkey said: Trumps wants Americans to die in fires.
    It's not ignorant: Trump, by cutting funds, wants Americans to die in Fires. All know you are wrong, so no need to write more.

    CA cut PG&E from monopoly.
     
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  10. Robert

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    Bill was the former teacher. I made it clear but still read it later and see why you assume I am the teacher. You have the bad habit of skipping words. As if they are not there.

    I have with me a female who has two masters degrees, votes republican and was happy to leave teaching. So I know why Democrats hate us. I know why Teachers love Democrats.

    I have a daughter who is a vice principal. She is a teacher. We never discuss politics but not due to her being a teacher. She belongs to a religion that refuses to be involved in politics. I do not belong to her religion. I did not ask her to comment on the teachers union nor would I do that to her.
     
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    rcfoolingCA288 pegged Robert exactly.
     
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  12. Robert

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    Trump rushed into action as the fire was totally raging. Well before it was put out. He committed millions to Ca to recover. We may someday get funds from the Democrats here. If they get around to it. Moonbeam to his credit promised to cut red tape. I don't know how but he said he would.
     
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    Let me help you grasp.....President Trump would rather pay to prevent fires. While Democrats would rather they die fighting fires. I have a son that has fought wildland fires for over a decade. Also many friends. They all agree. Every last one of them. Instead of having "seasonal jobs" when fire is likely, they should be employed cleaning underbrush in the off season. Can you begin to understand that? If you can't, you are no smarter than Governor Moon Beam or any of the leftists.
     
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    By lying he fooled you.
     
  15. Robert

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    Dad, before he died, joined a volunteer fire department in the Redwoods. Dad explained a lot to me over his years as the Fire Chief.

    I was on a forum one time and a fireman announced to me that most firemen are volunteers . City fire departments have the money for full time staff. Dad never got paid a dime and his volunteers did not either. Dad used to try to locate fire equipment from other fire departments. Is is stupid to blame Trump for what the Feds do. What they do us baked into law well prior to Trump being elected.


     
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    I am not in love with PG&E but it was goverfment that dug their grave. By forcing PGE to sell hydroelectric and get outta nuclear. Back then they had the money to keep up assets.

    Government directed the utility to sell all production facilities.
     
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    I am glad you are grasping what your friends and son instructed you.

    What you don't grasp is that if Trump cuts funds no fire fighting and no under cutting will be done. Do you understand now?
     
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    Yes, that is exactly what the right does.
     
  19. Robert

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    Yes on that you are correct. I would not go so far as to link retirements though. But perhaps you are also correct there.

    But unlike you, I do have direct contact with a former head of Engineering at PGE whose company job was the management of all of PGE water. PGE once had a massive holding in water. They had hydroelectric that most were not aware of and they transferred water all over the place. He would fly in the company helicopter to the various places to correctly manage the water used at Dams, I learned most of what I know about that company from him telling me what happens there.
     
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    Jake, you can't help striking out. I see that daily.
     
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    I produced the yr 19 budget. But it is a long ways from approved. So give us the actual cuts you claim made in 2018 or even 2017. I am eager to read what you can actually prove. Do you understand that Democrats have blocked the 2018 budget?
     
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    As you missed another one! Ending FEMA wildfire aid is wrong, and defending Trump on it is wrong, too.
     
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    Yes, lets put more pollutants into the air for you and others to breathe in; what a novel idea. Thank god I'm on the other coast. :)
     
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    Robert, you have trouble with facts. Show exactly how you based this silly comment, "So give us the actual cuts you claim made in 2018 or even 2017. "

    You have problems with the conditional, "if" in this case.
     
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    Tell you what. And surely you can prove your own claims. Show that at the moment any FEMA funding is cut by Trump. I showed you the unapproved 19 budget. Clear this up. Try to show us.

    Show us numbers. Democrats still have blocked the 2018 budget.
     
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