Trump says Russia meddling is a "hoax"

Dude stamping your foot like a five year old girl and saying stop that is not effective. It just makes you look weak and ineffectual.

You get different answers when you talk about different things.

 

Thanks for turning this into a personal attack.

Honest people understand that Obama did raise taxes, just not as much as needed. Partly because he couldn't, not that he didn't want it. Despite all the RWNJs running around screaming about Obama, he had the same problem Trump has now: Congress. Presidents have power but they can't sign bills that Congress doesn't send them. They can't pass tax raises or budgets that Congress doesn't approve. Now, RW partisans will blame Obama but not Bush or Trump for this and LWers will blame Bush and Trump but not Obama for the same thing. The fact remains Congress owns the purse strings.

 

Yesterday Clapper came clean and confirmed what President Trump said.

 

That Trump had been briefed on this?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/19/politics/james-clapper-trump-russia-hacking-cnntv/index.html
Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper confirmed Thursday that Donald Trump was briefed on US intelligence findings that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally ordered cyberattacks to attempt to sway the 2016 presidential election.

Clapper told CNN's "New Day" that he and other intelligence officers briefed Trump, who was President-elect at the time, and his team on January 6, 2017. CNN has previously reported that Trump was briefed on the report by the US intelligence community, which found that Putin ordered an "influence campaign" aimed at helping Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election.

In the "New Day" interview Thursday, Clapper said Trump listened to the briefing with "some skepticism."

"What struck me and others as quite unusual was before we left the room, they started writing a press release about our encounter and were trying to say that the Russian meddling -- the Russian interference had no impact on the election," Clapper said Thursday. "We didn't say that. We could not say that, that isn't the charter or capability of the intelligence community to do that. But I do think there was skepticism from the get-go -- from that day to this day -- that indicated that anything that attacked the legitimacy or questioned the legitimacy of now-President Trump's election, he just couldn't get his head around. He exhibited that that day and he has ever since."

Clapper has frequently criticized Trump's behavior toward Russia, including in his news conference Monday with Putin in Helsinki, Finland.

 

No that Obama directed all the nonsense, and spying on President Trump.

BTW I would have thot you would have been glued to CNN when Clapper exposed Obama.

 

ROFLMAO. Partisans are so silly.

 

Why all the sudden would anybody trust our intelligence agencies?

 

Then impeach him what are you waiting for?

 

Please get a link.

 

you trust the KGB more?

 

My point is complaints that Obama "did nothing" (which is a distortion of the truth) would be complaints that Obama "threw the election to Hillary" if he had come out publicly with the truth and said the Russians were working to elect the Bloviator-in-Chief.

"Now that Trump is president the democrats are saying Trump should do what Obama never did."

Nope. That's another distortion. In retrospect, I wish Obama had not worried about criticism he would have been pulling his thumb on the scale in the election by going public with what was known but isn't close to President Dotard's flip flopping on whether he accepts the intel community finding (not available to Obama prior to the election) that the Russians launched an attack on our democracy in order to help Don.

 

False dichotomy. Plus there is no KGB

 

In other words "Now that Trump is president the democrats are saying Trump should do what Obama never did." You can make excuses for Obama, but that is still what it comes down to.

It should not have made any difference to Obama who it would help or hurt. He knew about the interfering and did nothing.

 

This is another case when you folks appear to be intentionally obtuse. Why can't you see the difference between Obama's concern that speaking out about the limited info available during the campaign would create a huge controversy over using highly sensitive info to throw the election to Hillary..........and Don's inconsistent (to be kind) comments about whether he accepts the intel community's finding that Russia worked to get him elected?

 

Obama knew about it. He kept quiet about it while it was going on. He only let it be known after the election when nothing could be done about it except to argue about whether it had an effect. Now, they are saying Trump should do something about it when Trump cannot change the outcome. The more I repeat this, the worse it sounds for Obama.

 

As I said, Obama would have been criticized endlessly by Trumpette's had he done more than he did.

Read this........... https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/5876...a-stop-russia-s-election-interference-in-2016
............for some perspective on his concerns.

 

So what that Obama would have been criticized endlessly. Being president is not a popularity contest. He blocked information from being put out publicly. .
"And Comey reportedly wanted to announce the active measures in an op-ed column, as Newsweek reported in March 2017. Two sources with knowledge about the matter told Newsweek that Obama administration officials blocked the effort."
Didn't Obama think the American public was smart enough to handle it.?

Obama mishandled it from beginning to end.

 

This is a curious thing Don has you folks doing. Criticizing Obama for not driving a stake in Don's candidacy in a transparent effort on his part to take attention away from the matters at hand. Namely, Russia's interference in support of his election, his initial refusal to accept the overwhelming evidence of such and his subsequent waffling, and his admin's failure........now that the evidence is comprehensively understood....................to address the issue of election integrity.
At some point it would be desirable for the sitting prez to take responsibility for his own actions, and inaction, rather than constantly seeking to shift the blame to others.

 

Shouldn't that have applied equally to Obama when he was president. He failed in his responsibility to take effective action and then failed to notify the American people so they could decide for themselves.

 

Russkies have no choice and Putin fans just inexplicably do.

 

Soz to repeat myself but this apparently hard-wired neurosis about Russia is seriously weird. Yesterday in a speech in Brussels about the possibility of walking away from Brexit . . . yeah, like that'll ever happen! . . . our new foreign secretary, whom I can only presume will make a better fist of his new job than his old one as health secretary - it could hardly be a worse one! - said "Vladimir Putin would be the "only person" celebrating a "no deal" Brexit" I mean, why the hell would president Putin give a **** about Brexit? He's probably just as sick of hearing the words 'Brexit' and 'deal' as I am!