Trump says US will impose 5% tariff on all Mexican imports from June 10

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Protect them from what? These aren't people arriving in tanks.My post
    Foreign incursion.

    The people that took down the twin towers also didn’t arrive in tanks, did that make them less dangerous? You're answer.Case closed.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Ok, consider that they walked hundreds of miles to do so.
     
  3. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some travel in unseaworthy boats thousands of miles to get to Australia because their legitimate attempt so apply for asylum from where they’re fleeing are beyond difficult, sometimes impossible. Many drown on the way. I may be missing the point you’re trying to make though.
    But hey, all of this is going to appear insignificant when global warming floods low lying nations and millions seek somewhere else to live.
     
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    Showing that your analogy is flawed does not equal a comparison. Try again. And while you are at it feel free to answer the question you just posted in bold.

    Thanks in advance
     
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    MEXICO is ALLOWING migrants to enter and travel to our border so its time they stop that they can say no and process applications along the southern border to immigrate and assimilate as Mexico's concern or turn the rabble back.
     
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    Have you seen Mexico's southern border?
    Do you think they want those people traipsing thru their country?
     
  7. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Showing that you indeed equated illegals with terrorists when you claimed you didn't means I don't have to answer a damn thing you ask because you can't be held to answer honestly.
     
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  8. Dissily Mordentroge

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    cd8ed said:
     
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    Yet I have answered everything you have thrown at me, you are the one that is squirming and can’t answer a single question because it destroys your narrative.

    But you are correct, you don’t have to answer a single question online — it’s an anonymous online source for the open exchange of ideas — if you are uninterested or unable to have a reasoned discussion then I will accept your concession.

    Cheers.
     
  10. Steve N

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    How do they pay to survive? Probably crime since everything else, like a job, is illegal.
     
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    They’re not doing much to stop them. What’s funny is when the illegals are traipsing through our country you don’t think it’s a big deal. But you seem to imply that illegals traipsing through Mexico is.
     
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    People who don't believe in borders are probably not going to understand why a foreign power facilitating illegal border crossings would be considered a hostile act. I guess we should test that and pack up our illegals, bus them to the Canadian border, and let them loose. If I understand you correctly, Canada would have no reason to object to 100,000 Central Americans a month being dumped on their border to deal with because you wouldn't consider that a hostile act, correct?
     
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    The answer to your nonsensical question is no, that does not make them any less dangerous because being terrorists is what they are. They didn't come here for work, to flee oppression, to make a better life. They came here to do what they did so how does your question have anything to do with the subject. You made the comparison. For what purpose/point?
     
  14. 9royhobbs

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    While passing through? Is that how they make their way through Mexico.........crime and mayhem? I don't think so.
     
  15. 9royhobbs

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    I don't vote on Canadian policy.
     
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    Your statement was that they are not arriving in tanks so we shouldn’t worry.

    Which is absurd.

    Mexico should do everything they can to stop illegal immigration that is entering their country with the purpose of coming to the United States. Do you believe Canada would be ok if we started letting people into the country with the knowledge that they were headed to Canada? Especially the number that is arriving on our borders.

    I know why many of them are coming here — and it is sad. We definitely need a reform of our immigration systems across the board. We need to support Mexico in process to aid the process. We need to be a better neighbor, but so do they.
     
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    No, my statement was "Protect them from what? These aren't people arriving in tanks" and you twisted it to fit your point. Disingenuous at best.
    When you frame it the way.......no, check that, you're argument is absurd.
    Why? What has this administration done for Mexico?
    I have no idea what their policy is. Do you or just your opinion of what it should be?
    I can agree to that.
     
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    Its not absurd, do you believe the only time an individual is dangerous is when they are arriving in tanks?

    Change this administration to America and you still have the same answer. Nothing. Which is why my post continued that we need to do more to support the initiatives that will make both countries more secure.

    Feel free to review the Canadian Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. As for public opinion, A national poll in 2007 revealed that two-thirds of Canadians believe that any resident of Canada who is illegal should be deported. In 2018, an Angus Reid Institute poll, found that two-thirds of Canadians — 67 per cent — agree that the situation constitutes a "crisis" and that Canada's "ability to handle the situation is at a limit."

    It is my opinion yes, but it is based off their views. We would never allow illegals to enter the country with the intention to sneak into Canada — we certainly wouldn’t aid caravans with the intention of a small scale invasion.
     
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    Nice dodge.
     
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    Of course not but your argument is they are all dangerous. Before you say "I never said that" the fact is you immediately compared them to terrorists as if there is no middle ground........or did you have some point you're making Bob Mueller style that only you know what you're talking about.
    Really, you start your answer with "change this administration to"......what the hell is that? Why not say "If I had 2 wheels I'd be a bicycle".
     
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    So their policy is the same as ours and Mexico's......and here we are.
     
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    Thank you, I'll be here all week.
     
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    No doubt, but you'll provide no content, win no arguments, and make your self look ridiculous by dodging the very issues you bring up.

    Looking forward to enjoying the week!
     
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    I never said they were all dangerous. That’s a lie.

    Don’t stoop down to conservatives levels, you are better than that

    I will even go further than that, most of them probably are not dangerous — that still doesn’t mean we should be ok with them breaking our immigration laws and that is likely just the first of many laws they will break while on US soil.

    Because this issue extends way beyond trump, certainly he hasn’t helped as typical for him but it is a failure that extends over decades.
     
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    I didn't dodge this before, I choose not to address the convoluted nature of the post, but since you think I dodged it.....
    "People who don't believe in borders...." Where does this nonsense come from? Who has said they don't believe in borders?
    Helping people that want to come here and not Mexico isn't a hostile act to them. It shouldn't be here either. You and the right like to complain about the system and how it's broken but like health care, veterans care, schools, and pretty much any social issue you have done nothing and worse, you have NO plan TO DO anything other than point out how bad it is and work hard to make it worse.
    As far as your "test"......it was a hypothetical. Canada has no skin in this game but if they did, I wonder if they would handle it or play politics with it like us.
     
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