Trump supporter shoots anti Trump protester in self defense.

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  1. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

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    Don't drop the soap then.
     
  2. EMTdaniel86

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    That isn't what it states so please keep paying fast and lose with it.
     
  3. ButterBalls

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    I understand it's unrealistic, but, this is America and we should be able to feel somewhat safe when moving about! This is getting ridiculous, protest all you want but any physical abuse should not be tolerated. The left is pushing the envelope and playing with fire, if they don't start dialing it back the gubnors are going to start dialing it up National Guard Style! It's one thing to protest but there is a fine line between protest and coup.
     
  4. Texan

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    Can you give me a source for this law? Yelling is threatening? Being annoyed is different from being afraid. Texas law is not based on feelings. It's based on actions.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would your girlfriend come close to needing an abortion?

    The shooter in WA, appears to me to be a student. The Breitbart guy was inside talking to his audience. Not sure why he got named in the report.

    Also, be super careful. This is the haven of the Democrats and they passed laws to void your second amendment rights.

    How they get by with it stuns me.
     
  6. SiNNiK

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    If he were looking for trouble I certain he would have shot at the very first opportunity, the very first hit. But you can see he was trying to get away until he was being pummeled from different directions, then he shot.

    I think, in my opinion, that I may not have waited as long as that guy did before defending myself. Not sure though.

    As for why he was there, as if he needed a reason to be anywhere, he was likely on his way to hear Milo speak. I could be wrong, but that's my guess.
     
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    i didnt say he should take a whipping i said pepper spray and then the next level a knife then the next level a gun in a fist fight
     
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    Sounds like you new to learn some law before you end up in prison.
     
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    depends on prosecutor and jury really. We had a case similar to this a few years back. Involved road rage at a fast food restaurant drive thru. Prosecutor prosecuted on the grounds the shooter could have fled, jury found the guy innocent. But ours is a red state, being this happened in Washington State I would guess prosecution could occur however a good defense lawyer will get him off. Decisions have consequences though and shooter will wish he had stayed home regardless. BTW some training and a self defense wand coupled with a good LED flashlight is a good first defense against that sort of thing
     
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    You and your GF go to that abortion clinic often? Classy...
     
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    Republican rally. BLM protesters show up and start to verbally disrupt the protest. Republicans start abusing then physically assaulting them.

    I'm looking forward to all the Trump supporters agreeing that the BLM protesters were right to start shooting Republicans.

    :roll:

    Taking a gun somewhere you expect there to be a confrontation, provoking a confrontation then shooting when the confrontation occurs should not be self-defence.
     
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    Jesus Christ!! Are you for real?!

    I think, if you really do have a girlfriend, she should get away from you while she still can!
     
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    Yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking, too. :hmm:
     
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    Trump Supporters on this forum allowed Guns. Wouldn't they shoot themselves?

    So angry........
     
  15. SiNNiK

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    And if it turns out that the guy was simply trying to pass through and continue on to the event unmolested? Will you eat your words?
     
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    No words to eat.

    Frankly I could not see much on that video. I don't think it is right that someone can provoke an incident, pull out a gun and claim self defence, regardless of whether that happened here or not.

    Do you think it is right that someone can provoke an incident, pull out a gun and claim self defence?
     
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    I predicted this is leading to gun play and there will be more of it. The MSM and Democratic Party are doing all they can to generate mobs and riots all across the country literally now pursuing creating true social anarchy, violence, death and destruction.

    Republicans in Congress should conduct a hearing, as should the DOJ, to whether the national Democratic Party has become a domestic terrorist organization and should be legally classified as such.

    BLM definitely should as they increasingly are openly calling for hate crimes and racial assassination murder of white people, police and government officials.



    "Provoke an incident?" AH, the left's war on free speech! Even just attending the wrong protest is basis to be violently attacked for "provoking an incident" by being there.

    What I see is one person violently assaulting another person, and that person shoots the attacker. However, there is not enough info to make my call on it.
     
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    I'm a bears fan and I would never go into a bar in Green Bay wearing Bears gear and cheer a Bears victory.

    I know in Illinois if you use a gun while committing a crime it gets you 10 years mandatory. Ironically, his crime was carrying the gun in the first place.
     
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    And neither is being punched-unless you're a hopeless wimp.

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    Was he being attacked by a 'mob'? No, he was not. Watch the video.
     
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    Except that the crowd in this case wasn't remotely 'rabid'. You might want to watch the video again before you start with absurd exaggeration.
     
  21. SiNNiK

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    And those are the words I'd like to see you eat. You seem to imply his mere presence provoked the beating he was receiving.

    If it is proven that the shooter did not provoke anyone, but was set upon by lefist thugs for merely walking toward the front door to Milo's event, you'll take back your accusation that he provoked the incident, right?
     
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    Donald Trump encouraged his supporters to "knock the crap out of" protesters at his rallies, and promised he would pay their legal fees. A mob turning on a few political opponents is not unique to either right or left.

    In terms of provoking an incident I was not limiting anything to right or left. I think it is wrong for someone to provoke an incident, pull out a gun and claim self defence. That would be wrong if it was a Trump supporter walking into a protest by Democrats and provoking something, and equally wrong if a Democrat walked into a Republican rally and provoked something.
     
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    And if those Democrats were attempting to block the entrance?
     
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    Donald Trump supporters are remarkably restrained. There is plenty of evidence around that in most cases they were viciously attacked by anarchists, unemployed leftists, illegal immigrants etc...etc...for no reason whatsoever. They deserve a lot of credit for not responding to violent acts towards them and their families. As for me personally, I would not show such restraint, and this lad acted in self-defense so the verdict is not guilty. Any decent person would let him go.
     
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    No words to eat. You need to learn to read. I specifically said "regardless of whether that happened here or not".

    Whoever attacked him was wrong to do so, regardless of whether the guy was just walking to the front door or being verbally abusive. Of course if the guy with the gun started the physical stuff it would be different.

    My question remains, regardless of whether this guy did it: Do you think it is right that someone can provoke an incident, pull out a gun and claim self defence?

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    Call the police.
     

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