Trump supports torture and other indulgences

That about sums it up for me as well.

 

Trump has managed once again to fool his base and conservative pundits into thinking he is getting tough on Russia. They point to the fact that the Trump administration is booting out 60 Russian diplomats (spies) and closing the consulate in Seattle. This comes on top of the fact that the Trump administration is providing small arms to the Ukrainians fighting Russian inspired insurgents.

Sending diplomats home is an age-old method of fooling people into thinking you are actually doing something. It is window dressing, and, in the larger scheme of things, completely meaningless. However, it involves a worn-out tactic used by Trump, having it both ways. His administration does one thing. He does something else entirely.

The fact remains, through all of this Trump has said nothing. That is quite remarkable for a man who can find the most mundane things to talk or tweet about. Not a whisper from Trump on Russia, while being conciliatory to Putin.

The Trump administration is punishing Russia for what she allegedly did in the U.K. Trump has yet to admit that Russia and Putin interfered in our election. Trump has not taken steps to prevent Russia from doing it again. Trump has not imposed the sanctions that were passed by Congress last summer and signed by him in August.

Arming Ukrainian troops is wonderful, but what about the aggression shown by Russia in our country? Trump has done nothing. We have to ask ourselves why.

 

I honestly do not understand your reasoning here Sandy.

Kicking out diplomats and arming the Ukrainians is apparently "nothing".

But public announcements and anti Russian rhetoric would be "getting tough" in your eyes?

 

The District of Columbia tried to ban guns.

It went to the Supreme Court you know.

Are you absolutely sure that law makers don't want to take our guns?

 

This is vague and lacking specificity. Which is the problem with our current policy.

 

I haven't said anything against guns. Read the OP.

 

The vast majority of Trump fans do not want to talk about issues related to Trump. For example, Trump's tariffs and the impending trade wars with China and Japan. They don't want to talk about Trump and Kim and the North Korean issue and how Trump is handling it. They wish to avoid the 45% turnover rate at the White House and Trump's controversial appointments.They would rather not talk about Trump running the White House like an autocrat and his fear of reporters and his failure to conduct a regular press conference, the kind Sarah holds every week.

Trump fans wish to avoid all those extremely important issues concerning us today. They want to talk about the 2016 election, Trump's accusations against his own DOJ and FBI, guns, more guns, the 2nd Amendment, and the scourge of liberals.

I noticed you overlooked all those topics. Thank you proved my point.

 

After firing Veterans Administration head, David Shulkin, Trump chose a doctor with no managerial experience nominated to head the second-largest federal bureaucracy. He is Dr. Ronny Jackson, the lead White House physician since 2013 and a rear admiral. Apparently, Trump liked what he saw when Ronny reported on Trump's health at a press conference. The appointment is absurd.

He has selected a sycophant, Mike Pompeo, to be his new secretary of state. Pompeo is much like Pence, a lapdog who smiles and agrees with everything Trump says. There will be no divergent views at state. Whatever Trump says, goes.

Trump supports torture and waterboarding. "When ISIS is doing things that no one has ever heard of, since medieval times, would I feel strongly about waterboarding?" Trump said in an interview with ABC News. "As far as I'm concerned, we have to fight fire with fire." He added, "And if they [Pompeo and Mattis] do want to do (torture), I will work toward that end."

But do I feel it works? Absolutely, I feel it works.

Accordingly, Trump has nominated the darling of torture and waterboarding to be his next CIA director, replacing Pompeo. Her name is Gina Haspel, and she and Trump seem to be a perfect match.

Trump stole John Bolton from Fox News. Bolton will be Trump's new NSA. Diplomatically speaking, Bolton is a bull in a china closet, favoring a preemptive nuclear strike on North Korea, a bombing run (or two, or three) on Iran and regime change in North Korea and Iran. Just the man Trump wants. However, he might regret the appointment. Bolton is more controversial than Trump and he might steal the stage.

Trump picked another television star to join him in the White House, CNBC's controversial economist Larry Kudlow to serve as the next director of the National Economic Council.

It is pretty clear Trump is watching way too much television.

What is important, too, is who Trump is not hiring. Hope Hicks left the White House today for the last time. She resigned a month ago. Trump has not appointed anyone as communications director. Trump will be his own communications director. A true autocrat, he will say and do what he wants without any interference from anyone.

 

I have not read all the posts ... yet. However, so far, most Trump supporters are avoiding this issue like the plague.

Trump supports torture and waterboarding. "When ISIS is doing things that no one has ever heard of, since medieval times, would I feel strongly about waterboarding?" Trump said in an interview with ABC News. "As far as I'm concerned, we have to fight fire with fire." He added, "And if they [Pompeo and Mattis] do want to do (torture), I will work toward that end."

"But do I feel it works? Absolutely, I feel it works," Trump added.

Accordingly, Trump has nominated the darling of torture and waterboarding to be his next CIA director, replacing Pompeo. Her name is Gina Haspel, and she and Trump seem to be a perfect match.

Trump supporters want nothing to do with his support of torture. I don't blame them.

 

Which changes nothing I’ve written. Professional interrogators will tell you torture does not work. It gives you bad information.

Professional interrogators have an entire field of techniques that do work.

 

Thank you.

 

Trump approves of torture, and God/Jesus approve of torture (of ethical, innocent non-believers in the "after-life", simply for being, say, a Buddhist), and so do Allah/Mohammad (Q5:33, etc.). It's time to move beyond the barbarity of these folks.

 

God/Jesus uses this same technique (torture) to instill fear in the hearts of people, so of course RiseAgainst approves of torture as well. God/Jesus is a terrible role model, of course, as all brutal torturers are. Hitler never, himself, tortured anybody, but he of course approved of torture like God/Jesus do - so on this one important moral issue Hitler is as bad as God/Jesus....but Hitler's torture was not "eternal", so in that sense Hitler was less damaging than God/Jesus, so Hitler was likely a better person than God/Jesus.

 

So then do you condemn Allah, and Mohammad, and Saddam, and God/Jesus for approving of torture, like I do?

 

Right now... I will condemn all those dickheads (if they approved of torture).

 

ISIS is simply FOLLOWING THE ISLAMIC TEXTS! Q5:33 says to torture, and Mohammad also had a Jewish accountant brutally tortured until that Jew revealed where the booty was that Mohammad wanted to steal, and there are other examples - so why should we be surprised when Muslims FOLLOW Islam and torture people?

Muslims apparently don't yet understand that Modern Secular Humanism is a better, and more compassionate alternative to Islam.

 

Yes, verifiably Allah, and Mohammad, and Saddam, and God/Jesus ALL APPROVED of torture (based on their religion's texts.....or in the case of Saddam, a ton of direct evidence.)

 

Allah, and Mohammad, and Saddam, and God/Jesus are therefore no better than ISIS is.

 

Allah and god/Jesus aren’t real, Mohammad and Saddam are dead.

 

Hitler is dead too, so by your esteemed logic we can never ever ever condemn Hitler, and if we can't condemn even Hitler then we can never condemn ANYBODY.....see how illogical you are?

 

You clearly can't condemn torturers......I condemn you for that (but you are entitled to your opinion.)

 

But their teachings effect the world more than almost ANY other entities who have ever lived.....nice dodge, though.

 

Condemning a corpse does exactly what again?

 

I can condemn living torturers. Condemning dead and fictional ones does what exactly?

 

The fact that you have to ask that question speaks VOLUMES about your morality (or lack thereof.)