Trump Threatens Canada ‘Ruination’ on Autos Amid Nafta Talks

So, you are saying because Canada is asked to play fair, that is an affront to their nationalism. That doesn't show much character to me. The common sense here is that Canada will have to sacrifice a couple of special interest for the good of their economy. In the end, Canada will fold like a cheap card table. The only question is when it will occur.

 

Bravo (from British Columbia)!

Yep. You're telling it like it is. Quebecers have it firmly in their heads that they will decide their future. It may be as part of Canada, but Quebecers will decide.

Obvious, no? Why wouldn't English Canadians want Quebecers to be comfortable in Canada? IMO, Quebecers should be able to say to themselves that they have 37m Canadians behind their ambitions and dreams. But you have to decide if Canada works for you.

 

Are you trolling?

I explained to you the economic analysis that includes 20% U.S. tariffs on everything Canada sells to us. They concluded a deal without an effective dispute resolution process and protection for their cultural industries isn't one they'll sign.

 

NO, we are not being asked to play fair and for you to characterize it as such is simply an indication that you don't know nearly as much about the issues as you think you do. I guess believing Donnies' bullshit, trumps actual facts.

A couple of special interests? Sure we'll cave so an extent on dairy and the lousy couple hundred million increase in US ultrafiltered products. But for the big stuff? not a chance.

And if ever there was "special interests" it would be in control of our cultural industries.
If ever there was a special interest it would be in a fair dispute resolution mechanism.

And the five year sunset clause is also so much bullshit.

and as for us folding, your ignorance of the Canadian character is to be expected from somebody suffering from dunning kruger and thinking they have a clue about international trade and in particular the relationship between our two countries. Not surprising since your Dear Leader sure as hell doesn't, so I can see how you'd blindly follow his lead.

 

Let's hear it for les Quebecois




Thanks a bunch.
North of the Rio Grande was securely English speaking country.

 

Are you of the opinion that I 'hate it when another culture doesn't want to be assimilated"? How did you arrive at that conclusion?

In fact I think Quebec should separate, as well as the Maritimes. They should determine their own futures as a distinct culture, as well as the people in the Prairies and BC.

 

I doubt the US big pharma would like that since we'd no longer respect their patents. I doubt the auto industry would like having their JIT supply chain disrupted either.

The status quo before NAFTA is not something to be desired by either party.

 

Never. The french landed in Quebec a year after the pilgrims did in Plymouth. And they never left.

The acadians on the other hand did not fair so well. So you can thank us for cajun culture and Swamp People.

 

We are discussing the possible break-up of the EU.

 

Yeah just like california, new england, the mid west and the south should all separate. They could determine their own futures and well distinct culture.

Brilliant plan.

 

Oh, my bad. Its just that I assumed you were on topic.

 

Are there any strong movements within these areas advocating separatism? If so, as with Quebec, they should be listened to.

 

They were asked to "play fair" when they were already playing fair. The Bloviator is telling the Big Lie to people like you who don't know better.

You'll be like the bully who is shocked to have your victim bop you in the snout.

Canada is no doubt willing to talk about the dairy quota (it did to get a trade deal with the EU and for the TPP), but Trump will likely have to provide assurances we will not threaten to apply tariffs in the future.

 

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So far, Qurbecers have decided to stay part of Canada. They'll decide for themselves.

 

And I'm all for that.

 

Prepare for another "official language" north of the Rio Grand.
Merci
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Rallies call on Canada to recognize sign language
as an official language​

Hundreds of people gathered in front of legislative buildings across Canada this weekend to call on the federal government to recognize sign language as one of Canada’s official national languages.


They are looking for the Indigenous (ISL), Quebec (LSQ) and American sign languages (ASL) to receive official recognition. . . .



I don't make this stuff up.
I was correct about the unguarded, ethereal border after all these years.
No news of illegal crossings lately.
Golly I guess they fixed the problem



Moi

Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

Leadership is important, but there are other factors involved. Where the reservation was set up is often a major factor.

 

There are several reserves near Agassiz, just down the road from you, and the differences between them, from very good to ugly, depends on the leadership.

 

Nope no strong movements. A few loonies and airheads but nobody takes them serious. Wild Rose clowns and all.

Quebec was listened to and after a generation of Pequistes, les quebecois sont Canadien.

 

I think trump will have to do more than provide assurances, considering he wants the right to ignore whatever adjudication mechanism is used at his whim. Big balls, but small brain it seems.

 

Canada has avoided selling some resources--oil, for example--to other countries because they deal with us. Anyway, you should read THIS before you assume we have Canada over a barrel.

 

Assurances will have to be in the form of an effective dispute resolution process.