Trump vs. Trudeau...

What part are you disagreeing with?

The part where Canada allowed tariffs to be put on their timber industry because they did.

Why would they voluntarily enter into that agreement if they were doing nothing wrong?

The US told them to pay a little more and we would look the other way and they said "yep, you got it".

 

No as friends and allies not opponents, we Canadians know how to compromise. We stood our legal ground by consistently winning in the internationally established trade dispute tribunals while america PROTECTED its private timberland owners. CAnt help it that you guys SOLD american timberlands instead of "leasing them out" like we do. Think of it like Canadians are the landlords and the timber companies are the tenants. WE manage our property and the tenants gotta follow the rules.

 

Um...if you were winning why did you have to compromise on anything?

You were winning weren't you?

So here is a lawsuit that's filed, the trade commission sides with you and said there was no problem, so you guys just decided to help them out regardless?

You really want us to believe that?

wow

 

I'm here, but I'm laughing so hard I am having trouble typing.

 

And they are still winning.


Do you remember when the tariffs went into effect?
I think it broke thru $600 this month.
It's the US consumer that is losing.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/25/tru...riff-could-cost-us-homebuyers-about-1200.html

 

Ending the unfair balance makes us win in the long run.

I tell you this, if it was so beneficial to have a trade imbalance against us then why doesn't Canada do it?

How much are their people losing out by having favorable trade against the US.

If you actually cared about Canada you would fix that.

 

I have seen liberals here claiming everything.

From "its only 16b a year its no big deal" to saying that there is no imbalance to saying that "it benefits us".

Its a joke.

 

Counting services we have a surplus with Canada. Should they charge a tariff on Microsoft?

 

So, now you figure we should try to penalize Canada because they don't have our environmental rules under the stewardship of the Bloviator-in-Chief? Trade tribunals said Canada doesn't subsidize their forest industry. You sound like a typical Trumpite who figures they don't have to live by the rules.

When I play golf in Canada, the course is crawling with screeching eagles.

 

And now the final piece of the equation.

A liberal claiming there is no trade imbalance when absolutely no economist would agree with you.

This is how they operate folks.

Complete denial.

 

Perhaps you should learn how to hit a golf ball and quit hitting them.

 

Profound truly profound issue with comprehension it seems.

help who out?

 

I'm an economist and you're full of it. We have a goods and services surplus with Canada.

 

Typical liberal dodge.

Why did they agree to tariffs if they did nothing wrong and the trade council found nothing wrong.

And why did they do it over the last few decades.

Its not a hard question.

 

Eagles screech, or didn't you know.

 

You may want to remind your fellow liberals of that then since in this thread alone they have claimed 16b and 5b.

I'm starting to think that none of you actually knows what it is.

 

Yes such utter ignorance can only be derived from one of two sources. The first is that you honestly are ignorant perhaps thru some learning disability or flaw in your critical thinking skills, or you have an ulterior motive. I can only wonder if its a professional motivation or an emotional one but far be it for me to speculate.

 

I would screech also if you hit me with a golf ball.

 

Great insult totally devoid of any content.

Your usual standard.

 

Maybe there wouldn't be so many eagles sitting on your golf course waiting to be hit by your golf balls if the Canadians quit cutting down their forests.

 

They didn't agree.

The Canadian government on Wednesday said it has launched a legal challenge to hefty duties imposed by the United States on its softwood lumber industry.

Canada has won similar tariff fights in the past with the United States.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/367221-canada-starts-appeal-of-us-softwood-lumber-tariff-decision

 

Insult? As a rational, educated individual and experienced student of human nature when I encounter a baffling intransigence and persistent misrepresentation, I have to question first "causation" and then "motivation". I asked the question which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. That is if you respect intellectual integrity,truth justice and the american way.

 

What are you talking about? Canada repeatedly refuted Trump's claims. We have a many decades long dispute with Canada over lumber and we've lost every time we've put a tariff on their lumber.

Our own ITC ruled against our 292% tariff on Bombardier's C-series jetliner.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/26/bombardier-us-tariffs-imports-uk-trump-jobs-belfast​

Canada repeatedly complained about the tariff.

 

Have they challenged them all over the last 30 years?

If not then why not?

Hint: They haven't, as I stated earlier, its usually a done thing every time an agreement expires, we renew it and they sign.

Now why would they do that if they thought it was fair?

The trade commission told them its fair.

So what exactly is their problem?