Trump withdraws from Trans-Pacific Partnership amid flurry of orders

Sorry, but your initial point was bogus, and making something up about "normal channels" doesn't fix it.

Let's see how you feel with you go to buy that $800 flat screen and you find that it's now $1200, on the same wages as you're making now.

Because that's where your position is going to take this country.

 

And when that doesn't happen?

 

who woulda thought that Trump, Clinton, and Bernie would all agree on something then the libs here would trash the idea? Oh I would, because anything Trump does is a reason to hate him if you are a Move On clone

 

You make an excellent argument and picked a perfect example, work boots.

I have a friend who's a millennial and a general contractor in the trades. One day he was (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about that his three month old work boots were already falling apart that he paid $70. for. The soles were coming apart from the uppers because the soles aren't stitched because cheap boots and shoes have vulcanized soles today.

I just happen to be wearing my boondockers and he said those were nice looking boots. I told him they were the best pair of boots I've ever owned but they aren't work boots but field boots designed for war. No ankle support unless you are wearing leggings. A real boondocker is a mid 20th Century craftsmanship.

I told him if you want a good work boot you have to buy a boot made in the USA and they aren't cheap but they'll last you for years. In the long run it's cheaper to buy an American made boot that last for years instead of some chi-com or Vietnam made boot that doesn't even last a year.

During the 1970's and 80's I always wore work boots made by Chippawa, excellent boots. But one day someone turned me on to Red Wing boots. They don'r need to be broken in and you can wear them five days per week, 52 weeks a year and three or four years down the road they need new heels, no problem. They will last five to eight years. But they aren't cheap. $200 plus.

My first pair of Red Wings I bought in 1990 before NAFTA and paid $90. Today the same boot cost $250. A few years ago I bought my third pair of Red Wings and they will out live me. If there was never a NAFTA the boots would probably be selling for $125 or $150 today.

Remember before NAFTA back during the 1980's when Walmart would advertise "Made in the USA" ? Today the shelves are full of cheap garbage mostly crap made in China. And that's what people want, cheap crap, they no longer demand quality because either they forgot what quality is or are to young and never knew what quality was.

If you are poor and need a pair of good work boots you are screwed.

 

Did you agree with everything Trumps proposed? Besides nobody believed Hillary meant it lol

 

https://www.amazon.com/Squier-Fende...eywords=squier+classic+vibe+custom+telecaster

You play any guitar? I just ordered this $450 Squier Classic Vibe Custom Telecaster. Sounds every bit as good, and just about as high quality, as a made in America Telecaster that would set you back about $1,500. Oh, the Squier is made in China.

 

A percentage of that $450. went to help build a Chi-Com warship that is likely to launch anti-ship missiles against U.S. Navy ships in the near future.

If a tariff were have been put on Japanese made guitars back during the late 70's and early 80's, all of those Fender jobs in America wouldn't have to been shipped over seas.

 

Trump gets big ups for this one.

TPP was a bad idea, and he kept his promise to stop it.

 

I consider the last sentence is the problem. Not just in the US but around the world.

Sure American's should be buying American made which would stop much of the decay of production in America. Why does a government (any government) make regulations and tariffs to make Americans support their own industry??? If those who could afford the more expensive just pay for it then the poor in the community would not be screwed for the opportunity to better themselves.

However considering all of that, there was many issues with the TPP which was contentious anyway. I do believe the Congress would have blocked it eventually. Trump simply speed the demise up simply due to the embarrassment that could be made if he was to introduce tariffs and congress pass it. Removing the prospect of introduction once and for all allows Trump to create his isolation of the manufacturing without the prospect of agreed removal of tariffs.

I am still not sure it is a good or bad thing but it certainly is a decisive thing that has embarrassed the countries who vested much political interest in it...