Trumps defense secretary Gen. James Mattis Placing Russia first among threats

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well that's good to know, maybe someone should tell him that.

    Donald Trump suggests he may scrap Russia sanctions if Moscow helpful in terrorism battle
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-15/trump-suggests-he-may-do-away-with-russia-sanctions/8183340

    win win situation for Russia and America gets nothing, I thought Trump was good at making deals

    There's probably only one nation terrorists hate more than America and that's Russia, as if they'll ever not fight terrorism... ridiculous
     
  2. litwin

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    this news MUST scary 90% Americans , Muscovy has never fight terrorism it creates , exports it

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-strikes-idUSKCN0SF24L20151021
    and
    http://origin-www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-10-02/what-maps-say-about-russia-s-syria-aims

    ps "terrorism battle" is an old RT.ru myth ...do you thing Trump is a real traitor or just a " useful idiot" ?
     
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    I think he is a useful idiot, blackmailed into being a traitor

    (those were great articles thank you)

     
  4. litwin

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    this just a crazy , SVT says today that Trump´s friend talk every day with embassy of Muscovy in Washington more then a week time already , in the time of total (hybrid) war with Muscovy . I am just wondering what the congress thinks about all this ...
     
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    I think they're giving him rope.... (to hang himself)

     
  6. litwin

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    as i said , ITS JUST CRAZY , i dont understand why Trump does it , just too crazy even for a reality star

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    I expect you're right, including about Putin. I find myself wondering how Russia might be led after he's finally out of office..
     
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    Unfortunately Russia may have to wait until he dies. He isn't acting like he's going to leave on his own.
     
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    Sure man! there is no big war in Europe since long time. And to believe in some conspiracy theories isn't a sign of education.
     
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    Unfortunately some thugs can live long time. But Russians love and like their dictators. So, I don't think that Russia will become democracy soon. Maybe after 40 or 50 years.
     
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    How long must a conspiracy theory remain no more than a "theory" before you can say it is not "fact"? For example:

    1). Is it a conspiracy theory that the US government lied about WMD's in Irak? Do you think people who believe there are no WMD's in Irak are uneducated?

    2). Is it a conspiracy theory that the US has been supporting ISIS in Syria? Do you think people who believe the US is supporting ISIS are uneducated?

    3). Is it a conspiracy theory that Hillary Clinton destroyed certain e-mails after she had been subpoenaed to submit them? Do you think people who believe she did destroy them are uneducated?

    4). Is it a conspiracy theory that Vladmir Putin is behind Hillary's e-mails being submitted to Wikileaks? Who are the educated/uneducated in that theory?

    .... and is it a sign of education to believe everything the Whine House and the Pentagram says?
     
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    What gives you the idea that Putin is a 'dictator' and what makes you think Russia is not 'democratic'?
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

    But for you it is another conspiracy to defame Russia [: or something similar. Am I right? [:
     
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    That's not correct. The government is one source, not the only source of economic growth and during our 20th century great depression, the added production and employment needed to field a huge military acted as an economic boom. The government then aiding in education and skills, not the only source as you falsely claim, to aid in our workforce with measures such as the GI Bill.

    You may argue you can achieve it at far less cost, it's still going to profit US companies, what you "want" there above isn't free. The innovation, research, and production capabilities all costs serious money, Ethereal. Not to mention, what of the deal the government is getting out of it. Corporations and businesses alike, colleges and farms across America rallied to wars, sacrificing everything for their US government. Young US men and women sacrificed their own businesses, educations, and even lives for our country, I would think the corporations and businesses they work in the private sector should profit. Hugely.
     
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    No innocents? Except for democratically elected governments in latin America, right?
     
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    Russia is a democracy now. They just have a different system. Their government narrows down the list of candidates before the people get to the ballot box. More efficient :)

    Choose

    A: Putin


    Thank you for voting.
     
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    So far Putin is shaping up to be dictator for life. Even for that brief period when Medvedev took over his present office, he was Prime Minister. His return to the presidency after that is pretty disturbing to me. Russia has effectively had one strongman leader with a nice cult of personality and everything ever since the late 90s and there's no end in sight to his reign. Our presidents get a maximum of two four-year terms and that's it. They don't hang around the upper echelons of government following that and then return to the presidency after that.

    Also, their political opposition doesn't tend to end up murdered in broad daylight, poisoned, &c. It's kind of frightening of how Putin has held onto power so far and equally frightening what kind of adoration and vehement support he gets from certain people. It's the sort of thing people are worried about here now with Trump and his own little wacky cult.
     
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    Yes. I have to agree with you on all of that.

    That's where we disagree. I mean, most of the people who could witness to Hillary Clinton's crimes are all dead and there's about 1 million innocent men, women and children who've been killed due to the WMD hoax, the false proof of them, the illegal invasion ..... and much, much more. I could write several pages on that but i know you don't want to read it. I know the subject is Putin (not the US) but American credibility on providing truth is just about zero. So why should anyone believe what they've been saying about Putin and Russia?
     
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    Russian Federation they name are. :thumbsup:
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not going to take a stand on that but I assume that when "no charges have been made" in Russia (your link) you see it as proof of guilt. So I am interested to know your reaction to "no charges have been made" against Bush Jr. - Dick Chenny - Donald Rumsfeld - Tony Blair? Again, I know the subject is Putin (not western politicians) but it seems to me that most of the issues these past weeks are about Putin's/Russia's guilt on a number of circumstances that are all being pawned off as true without any proof.
     
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    "Putin gets 107% of the vote in Chechnya!

    You can always tell how popular abusive dictators are by what percentage of the population votes for them. Anything above 90%, and you've got a vote-rigging dictator. Saddam Hussein, for example, use to win 99% of the Iraqi vote.

    With all ballots counted, it appears that Russian President Vladimir Putin actually won 107% of the votes at one precinct in Chechnya, of all places (the number of people reported to have voted for Putin was higher than the number who voted). " http://www.newser.com/story/141159/in-chechnya-107-turnout-for-putin.html
     

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