Tuesday’s impeachment hearings were a disaster for Republicans

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Think the effects thus far is that impeachment is much more likely.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Kneejerk denialism does not alter the documented facts regarding your BLOTUS's crimes.

    His latest crimes are now revealed for the entire world and even a Republican like Ken Starr is saying that your BLOTUS is going to be impeached for them.
     
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    Michael Cohen's felony guilty plea has a bone to pick with the bolded.
     
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    Keep wishing. And he’s everyones blotus. How are your investments doing? How’s your salary? Mines been doing great.
     
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    Yea I'll take a disaster like this one any day. When it got so muddy that no one knew what we needed or wanted for sure what we wanted from Ukraine, the Ambassador calls Trump directly and asked an open ended question, what do you want from Ukraine? He testified Trump said I don't want anything, I want no quid pro quo's, I want him to do what is right, what he ran on.

    If you think that's a bad day your going to have some real bad day's soon....
     
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    I don't think it was ever in doubt in the House. The Senate will be a different story. Chief Justice Roberts will preside over the Senate during the trial.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Whataboutism does not excuse CRIMINAL ACTS.

    Your BLOTUS is NOT above the Law of the Land.
     
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    Assuming it gets to the Senate.

    Ken Starr is speculating that the GOP Senators are going to pressure the BLOTUS to resign instead.
     
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    I believe it will make it to the Senate. I also believe it will fail in the Senate.
     
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    Like the testimony Trump said he wanted nothing and the aid was released with nothing in return?
     
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    Republicans first considered using the Sen Byrd tactic of introducing dismissing it outright like the Clinton impeachment but now are considering drawing it out to keep the dem Senator candidates in DC.

    The ole ‘beware of what you wish’.
     
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    And I believe it will end up hurting the Dem Senators. I have no doubt this will be a long process.
     
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    Yesterday I would have agreed with you.

    Today I have my doubts because the GOP Senate is in a Lose-Lose predicament. The GOP is DEFENDING something like 20 seats and they are about 5 or so that are very vulnerable. If they vote to acquit the GOP will almost definitely lose at least 3 of those seats and perhaps more. If the vote to convict then they risk Primary challenges. Forcing a resignation means having Pence on the ticket which is better for the party as a whole.
     
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    Well so far all the dem bombshells turned out to be duds. It ain’t polling well and dems are only hurting themselves.
     
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    I take it you didn’t watch all of Sondland’s testimony and are relying on fake news.
     
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    He plead guilty because it was a package deal with other crimes. If he fought the charge theres a very good chance it would have been dismissed.
     
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    There was no disaster for the Republicans. The dems have yet to show any reason for the inquiry let alone impeachment.
     
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    On the contrary, I think it is pretty easy to see their defense. To sum it up, "Trump's base will not desert him and neither will I."

    That defense is entirely independent of the facts. It is entirely independent of the wrongdoing in which Trump has been shown to be engaged.

    To put it another way - they simply don't care what he does. I sort of laugh at CNN's headlines talking about "bombshells" or "a really bad day for the President". In the end, the Republican defense will be that no matter what he has done, no matter what he is proven to have done, they will say, "but that isn't an impeachable offence." End of story.
     
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    We will see how it goes. I do not believe Trump should resign, nor do I believe he will. I also do not believe the impeachment will be successful in the Senate. Both sides may regret the crap they have put our Country through. Our next election will be decided at the ballot box, not through this unnecessary, time consuming impeachment process.
     
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    Vox is a pretty legitimate website...
     
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    Ken Starr reacted to the initial comments about Quid Pro Quo. Michael Turner blew that up during the afternoon session.

    Yesterday ended as a disaster for the Dems.
     
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    What I am seeing so far is a lot of witnesses offering their opinions. I have yet to see any concrete proof of any crime. Unless that changes, that will be the downfall of the Dem's attempt.
     
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    It is the only explanation as to why these characters, caught with their hands in the cookie jar, have been so viciously committed to overturning our election since 2016. Sure, Romney and McCain wore different political masks, but they share a common thread with the corrupt deep state operations of the Democrats. That is why they have always afforded a "civil" countenance with them in spite of the fact it lost them elections. They were all afraid the jig was up as soon as the election report was final. It explains Hillary's statement when she said, "If that Bastard gets elected we're all going to hang!!"
     
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    The BLOTUS lacks the personal integrity to resign for the sake of the nation.

    The Senate, under Moscow Mitch, can make up whatever rules they want for the impeachment trial. One option is for the vote to held by secret ballot. That will give the GOP the cover it needs to get rid of the BLOTUS with minimum risk to their vulnerable senators. At last count at least 30 are willing to remove him from office.

    If that does not transpire then it will be up to We the People. I suspect that outcome is a foregone conclusion at this point in time. Yes, there is still almost a year's worth of water to flow under the political bridge between now and then but the nation's overall sentiment is enough already with the tantrums and the drama.
     

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