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Tuesday’s impeachment hearings were a disaster for Republicans

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MrTLegal, Nov 20, 2019.

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Fake news.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Nov 24, 2019
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    For the LAST TIME I am going to explain this to you.

    The Electoral College is a prejudicial anachronism that DENIES CITIZENS their RIGHTS under the Law of the Land to have ALL of the VOTES counted EQUALLY.

    If you do NOT understand this concept then that is YOUR problem, not mine.

    I UPHOLD the PRINCIPLE that EVERYONE is EQUAL under the LAW.

    Apparently you believe that the votes of a handful of citizens should OVERRIDE the Will of the People.

    The ONUS is entirely on YOU to JUSTIFY this egregious INEQUALITY.
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 25, 2019
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  3. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you should learn "the Law of the Land".
     
    squidward, Nov 25, 2019
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  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Easy, it’s called the law of the land.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 25, 2019
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  5. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Slavery was once the Law of the Land!

    Jim Crow was once the Law of the Land!

    Women and Blacks being DENIED their voting rights was once the Law of the Land!

    Gays being denied their right to marry the consenting adult of their choice was once the Law of the Land!

    ALL of those have been OVERTURNED!

    The EC is OVERDUE as far as being OVERTURNED is concerned.
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 25, 2019
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    Abqguardian Well-Known Member

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    You clearly dont understand the electoral college at all, or our system of government. Thats on you to fix
     
    Abqguardian, Nov 25, 2019
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    Simply because it protects the minority States. I thought minorities were important to lefties.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 25, 2019
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The only purpose of the EC was to protect the slave states. Now that slavery has been abolished the EC is REDUNDANT and needs to be removed.
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 25, 2019
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    States cannot be minorities!

    EVERYONE's vote for the POTUS must be counted EQUALLY otherwise some votes are worth more than others.

    Would you be a happy camper if your vote was only worth half of those of a minority citizen?
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 25, 2019
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    Did you accept the results of the 2016 election? Will you accept the results of the 2020 election? YES or NO? It is not a trick question, but apparently you are having a very difficult time giving a definitive answer.
     
    TBLee, Nov 25, 2019
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  11. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    That you don't like the answer that you have been given is NOT my problem.

    My answer stands whether or not you like it because I am under no obligation to obey your demands.

    This matter is now CLOSED!
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 25, 2019
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    Its not a matter of me liking or disliking your response, as you never did answer my very direct question. Your inability to do so is on YOU, not me. Just in case you decide to try to answer here we go again: . Did you accept the results of the 2016 election? Will you accept the results of the 2020 election?
     
    TBLee, Nov 25, 2019
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  13. Hoosier8

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    Ah, so you don’t like the Constitution protecting minority stars and want LA and NYC to decide.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 25, 2019
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    To take the bias and personal beliefs out of this, I suggest we go by the numbers. Then each one of us can make what they will of them.

    Public response to impeachment hearings. Comparing Trump’s approval ratings, percentage of those who want Trump impeached and removed along with those who don’t.

    Impeachment hearings began on 13 Nov 2019 vs. 24 Nov 2019

    Trump’s approval 13 Nov 43.9%, 24 Nov 44.3%


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html



    13 Nov Democrats for impeachment and removal 82%, 24 Nov Democrats for impeachment and removal 87%.

    13 Nov Republicans for impeachment and removal 12%, 24 Nov Republicans for impeachment and removal 9%.

    13 Nov Independents for impeachment and removal 38%, 24 Nov Independents for impeachment and removal 41%.

    13 Nov Democrats against impeachment and removal 6%, 24 Nov Democrats against impeachment and removal 8%.

    13 Nov Republicans against impeachment and removal 80%, 24 Nov Republicans against impeachment and removal 87%.

    13 Nov Independents against impeachment and removal 39%, 24 Nov Independents against impeachment and removal 47%.


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...ment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html

    10 days after the start of the hearings, we finally see a bit of movement. Impeachment and removal have gained 5 points among Democrats and 3 points among independents. Although support for impeachment and removal has dropped 3 points among Republicans. The biggest rise was independents against impeachment and removal, an 8-point rise, Republicans against impeachment and removal have risen 7 points. It seems after 10 days of hearings, Republicans and Democrats have harden their view on this. But I think it is more important to keep tabs on independents, the less to non-partisan group, probably most not in either the pro or anti Trump camps. On 13 Nov you had 38% for impeachment and removal, 39% against. 24 Nov shows 41% of independents for impeachment and removal, 47% against impeachment and removal.
     
    perotista, Nov 25, 2019
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    Every day of impeachment is bad for the Dems—but what can they do? The bastard is guilty as all hell—but he’s got a booming economy, and as Hitler’s popularity in the 1930’s proved, the masses don’t care—“Principles be damned—I got a family to feed.“

    It will cost them the 2020 presidency, but the impeachment of this Alt-Right, pragmatic nationalist who violated the constitution, (and in more ways than his backroom dealing with corrupt Ukraine officials), is the moral and just thing to do.

    Impeach the rat.
     
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    Starjet, Nov 25, 2019
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  16. Derideo_Te

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    Gross MISCHARACTERIZATION duly noted FTR!

    I have already provided MULTIPLE RESPONSES to your puerile question.

    That you either don't like them or cannot comprehend them is NOT my problem.

    My answer is NOT going to change just because you under some bizarre illusion that other members are OBLIGATED to respond as you DEMAND that they MUST.

    Your question is OFF TOPIC and DERAILING the thread which is a PF Rule Violation.

    Continuing to HARASS other members is a PF Rule Violation.

    This matter is CLOSED!
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 25, 2019
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  17. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Wrong again!

    We the PEOPLE would decide because there would no longer be any EC.

    Why do you HATE the concept of EQUALITY?
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 25, 2019
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Yup, to FAIL to impeach the BLOTUS would be a dereliction of their sworn duty to the Constitution. If the Senate fails to remove his YUUUUGE orange ass from the Oval office then it will be up to We the People. If we fail to do so then we will get what we deserve.
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 25, 2019
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    TBLee, Nov 25, 2019
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  20. MrTLegal

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    They want to be true? So they are all biased against Trump?
     
    MrTLegal, Nov 25, 2019
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    So work on changing the EC, have you been in touch with those who can help you in your mission? If those changes you want to see do ever happen, and become part of the way our Country opts to elect our President, I would accept that. Just as I will accept the results of the 2020 election.
     
    TBLee, Nov 25, 2019
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    Yes. Bonespurs has admitted the essential elements of the facts that the witnesses testified about. But the facts are not facts because they don't like him.
     
    Nemesis, Nov 25, 2019
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    Derideo_Te, Nov 25, 2019
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    They like their little money siphoning scheme.
     
    squidward, Nov 25, 2019
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  25. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The BLOTUS and FACTS don't share the same universe.

    The BLOTUS is the center of his own universe where only ALT facts are allowed.
     
    Derideo_Te, Nov 25, 2019
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