U.S. homicide rates compared to different countries

For the years 2010-2016, Florida's homicide rate average 5.1. California's averaged 4.7. That's not a lot of difference considering lax vs strict gun laws. Over that same time period, Texas's homicide rate averaged 4.6, less than that of California.

http://disastercenter.com/crime/

You do know that red states have blue enclaves, and vice versa, right?

 

But it was the Black Panthers in California during the 1960's who abused their Second Amendment rights and all American citizens in California would be punished with Nazi gun control laws.

President Obama was probably the best gun salesman in America's history but it was the Clinton's and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) who flooded America with 400,000 Chi-Com AK-47's and allowed thousands of full auto AK-47's to be smuggled into the USA to arm the Crips, Bloods and the cartel drug gangs in America.

 

There you go trying to confuse the issue by using 'rates' and ignoring the actual numbers. Rates aren't a very good indicator. Sheer volume of numbers are. Where were the most homicides committed? Your attempt to skew the data with 'rates' doesn't change the fact that more murders happen in liberal urban shitholes than anywhere else, regardless of what state you are in...

 

Sorry for the very late response. Usually the more people, the more of anything about them increases, so using just "the actual numbers" is at best confusing the issue with misleading statistics. One must us the rate of what is being measured. The number measured per a baseline size.

 

I won't believe that. Sorry. Just can't be.

London murder rate overtakes New York's
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936

Reality Check: is London's murder rate still higher than New York's?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44807271

 

That's London, not the entire UK - but yes, like in the US, crime in the UK is centered in the urban areas.

 

London is ruined. Birmingham I know it's pretty bad. Not pretty bad, actually exceedingly bad!

I have no data about Liverpool or Manchester because I don't really read about Europe, but it's probably the same? There was an attack in Manchester not so long ago if I remember rightly. When major cities and urban areas get overtaken, a country is done. I'll explain. All the decisions, all the laws, get passed there. Nothing happens in a village or in Dover. That was the battle tactics for thousands of ye'rs. Every Army or an Empire attacked the main Fort, or sacked the Capital first. It's a psychological move aiming to cripple any further retaliation.

Some hope of Scotland and Ireland since nobody wants to go there. Not that much money, plus nationalists and former IRA members that'll shank some migrants gladly.

 

Got to hand it to them for trying.

If Protestants and Catholics were killing each other, I'd imagine throwing muslims into the mix could only help.

 

Interesting observation.

 

Want make a bet?

 

The only thing that can help is we make money, and protect ourselves. Let them fight it over.

 

There you go quoting "Gun Death Rate" statistics, which completely ignore justifiable homicide and all murder by means other than a gun. They also fail to account for the uncounted lives saved by the use of a gun. Many of these uses do not involve a discharge. But I guess they work well for your gun grabbing statistics.

 

The number of firearm-related deaths to any particular state, especially when they include irrelevant suicides, does nothing to indicate the overall levels of violence in general within the individual states. How many kidnappings? How many sexual assaults? How many non-lethal assaults? How many deaths that do not involve a firearm?

 

Then if there are so many more live "saved" by guns - why is your homicide rate about five times ours?

 

If you have a better map post it

 

We don’t live on an isolated island with a mostly homogeneous culture. Without liberal ran large cities our murder rate competes with anybody.

 

What homogeneous culture? Bring your idea if AUS out of the 1950s please

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiculturalism_in_Australia

Oh! And BTW America actually smuggles guns into Mexico

 

Why was it five times higher before your 1996 laws? Why didn't the imposition of those draconian laws shift that ratio at all?

Why did the US to UK homicide rate ratio go from 10 to 1, where it stood for decades, to the current 5 to 1 after their 1996 laws?

 

You're going to have to do better than that. For example, official stats have 709 homicides in 2017-2017 data but 96 of those were manslaughter from 1989 Hillsborough disaster.

Why can't you refer to scholarly research that looks for structural breaks in the data? Have a try!

 

"There were 12 offences of homicide per million population in the year ending March 2017 (10 homicides per million population excluding Hillsborough victims)."

"The Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation publish figures showing that the homicide rate in the United States of America in 2016 was 54 per million population."

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2017

20th century homicide rates:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate_by_decade

 

Again, you're using raw data out of context. For example, where's your correction in time series data for the Shipman murders? Where are you taking into account how data is not included in the year of attack etc etc etc?

Most importantly, why aren't you referring to any empirical analysis that isolates gun effects? You mentioned 1996, why don't you show that there is a structural break in the data? [Hint: It doesn't exist]

 

Tappity, tappity, tappity.

 

Imagine actually being able to answer those very simple questions...

 

People that make these claims have just caught on to the fad of America-bashing. Some others are criminals who want to shorten prison sentences.

 

And? Most "gun-related deaths" in the US are suicides.

Anti-firearms people like to conflate that with firearms homicide for ideological advantage in being able to present a higher number to an audience for dramatic effect.

There are more deaths by drunken driving and alcohol abuse than firearms homicides and firearms suicides respectively, yet nobody is advocating the same laws for alcohol that they do firearms for some odd reason.