Uh oh, Sondland Revises Impeachment Testimony

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  1. FreshAir

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    most courts will not charge you if you correct your testimony before they go after you, basically his not recalling and then remembering later will be his defense
     
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  2. Lee Atwater

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    I see so many republican here defending the indefensible.... it's really sad
     
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    Sondland's prior lie exemplifies exactly why the Dems didn't want to allow the witnesses to coordinate testimony by having it be public. He only "remembered" in order to avoid a charge of perjury. He gets zero credit for that in my book.
     
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    Nor is it the first time that the radical left and their Alinsky tactics failed against Trump. Just ask Schiff and his evidence of Russian Collusion. [​IMG]
     
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    Well......as you apparently don't recall.......the investigation was conducted under the supervision of Repubs. It produced ample evidence of collusion despite Billy the Bagman's disgraceful mis-characterization..

    Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”

    https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/
     
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    :roll:

    Kelli Ward: Mueller affirms what Trump said: No collusion
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2019/07/26/kelli-ward-mueller-affirms-no...
    Jul 26, 2019 · Yet, Mueller’s testimony mirrored what President Trump has said from the very beginning and what America already knew to be true: There was no collusion and it’s time to move on.


    Lisa Page bombshell: FBI couldn't prove Trump-Russia ...
    https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/406881-lisa-page-bombshell-fbi-couldnt-prove-trump...
    Page’s comments also mean FBI and Justice officials likely leaked a barrage of media stories just before and after Mueller’s appointment that made the evidence of collusion look far stronger …


    Mark Penn: Mueller's testimony and investigation are over ...
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mark-penn-mueller-testimony-investigation-congress...
    Robert Mueller’s testimony to Congress, by any reasonable standard, should have been the swan song of the impeachment movement. To state the obvious, there is no evidence that President Trump or …


    LMAO even your Clintoncrat came out to shame the leftness. Especially all the illiberals.
     
  8. Lee Atwater

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    1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

    2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

    3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

    4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

    5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

    6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

    7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

    8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

    9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

    10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

    11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
     
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    Here from your own Leftist Source.....Slate.


    Robert Mueller testifies: live streaming and blog.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/robert-mueller-testifies-live-streaming...
    Jul 24, 2019 · (The point apparently being “NO COLLUSION.”) Mueller responded “No.” Collins than cited Page 188 from Mueller’s report, which stated, “Even as defined in legal dictionaries, collusion ...
     
  10. Lee Atwater

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    Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

    "No collusion" is as much of a fantasy as "no quid pro quo."
     
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    Imagine that, a Democrat won in a Republican bastion, Kentucky. A Democrat won in a state won by Trump by 30 percentage points. A Democrat won in Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's state. A Democrat won in Rand Paul's state.

    Trump is going down and he is going to take the GOP with him unless Republicans grow a brain.

    Democrats gained control of both houses of the Virginia General Assembly on Tuesday, tapping strength in the suburbs to consolidate power for the first time in a generation and deliver a rebuke to President Trump
    , the Post.

    A disastrous day for the GOP. The question is, will they learn anything from it? Simply saying the impeachment inquiry is a sham, a Soviet style inquisition will not do. Our Constitution provides for impeachment and gives unconditional control to the House. Ridiculing the impeachment process is ridiculing our Constitution, and voters know that.

    Saying Trump did nothing wrong when he asked for foreign interference in our Presidential election will not do.

    Saying that requesting foreign interference in our Presidential election is not an impeachable offense will not do.

    Saying there is no quid pro quo when members of Trump's own staff, including his chief of staff, have admitted there was quid pro quo will not do.

    Republicans either learn from all this or die (in political terms).
     
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    That post is ludicrous. Is that all you can say?
     
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    Still just his opinion.
     
  14. Lee Atwater

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    Acting ambassador says it was his ‘clear understanding’ U.S. military aid would not be sent until Ukraine pursued investigations
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...8f4e52-0084-11ea-9518-1e76abc088b6_story.html

    BREAKING: House impeachment investigators released the transcript of William B. Taylor Jr.'s testimony in which he testified about President Trump's pressure on Ukraine to benefit him politically.

    In one exchange, Taylor was asked whether the military aid was conditioned on investigations. "That was my clear understanding, security assistance money would not come until the President [of Ukraine] committed to pursue the investigation," Taylor testified.
     
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    Yes you will cite what Democrats and the Lame Stream Media heard. Despite reality that jumped up with the High Five.

    Kellyanne Conway was on CNN with the Transcript. She told CNN to circle the QPQ. They couldn't. Another reality laid bare.
     
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    LMAO the Lame Stream is headlining this as a Rebuke against Trump and as a Never Trumper you fell for the okie doke Shanks. Bevins was down 15-20 pts until Trump campaigned for him and made it a down to the wire race. At least Politico acknowledges that.

    Bevins hit the 3rd rail. Pension reform. Has nothing to do with Trump. The illiberals here have no clue as to what really happened. But then all they need to do is look at the Demo incumbents in Chicago that got knocked by Socialists over Pension Reform.



    Kentucky legislature 2019: Pension reform, taxes key topics

    https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/04/kentucky-legislature...
    Oct 28, 2019 · Related: A dozen issues to watch in this year's Kentucky General Assembly The 2019 session begins at noon Tuesday with Republicans remaining in firm control. The GOP will hold a

    Anyone talking Pension reform will get smacked down. Demo or Repub.

    As far Kentucky turning Blue. [​IMG]




    Kentucky state legislative special elections, 2019 ...

    https://ballotpedia.org/Kentucky_state_legislative_special_elections,_2019
    Republicans controlled
    the Kentucky State Senate with a 29-9 majority. Republicans controlled the Kentucky House of Representatives with a 61-39 majority. Kentucky Party Control: 1992-2019



    Kentucky elects first black attorney general, first Republican to serve in role in more than 70 years


    Voters in Kentucky made history Tuesday by electing Republican Daniel Cameron as their next attorney general.

    Cameron is the first black person voted individually to statewide office, the first black attorney general, and the first Republican elected to the role in more than 70 years, according to Lex18.


    Cameron, a relative newcomer in politics, defeated Democrat Greg Stumbo, a political heavyweight in Kentucky who was attorney general from 2003 to 2007 and as speaker of the General Assembly from 2009 to 2017.


    Cameron won by a margin of 57.7% to Stumbo’s 42.3%


    President Trump endorsed Cameron at his rally in the state on Monday and said “a star is born” when he brought him up to the stage. ….snip~


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-than-70-years
     
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  17. Lee Atwater

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    Could you substantiate that claim please.
     
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    He was actually up by 9pts and I already showed that Pension Reform was his problem. Besides being one of the most unpopular governors in the GOP. Beshear was up on him by 6 in June and then tacked on 3 more points. Then Trump came in and campaigned for him and it was down to the wire.



    KY-Gov: New Poll Has Attorney General Andy Beshear (D ...
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1881519/-KY-Gov-New-Poll-Has-Attorney...
    Here’s the latest news out of Kentucky: An internal poll from the campaign of Andy Beshear shows the Democratic attorney general leading Gov. Matt Bevin by 9 percentage points


    Newest poll shows Beshear up 9 points
    https://forwardky.com/newest-poll-shows-beshear-up-9-points
    Forward Kentucky
    has obtained a copy of a poll of the Kentucky governor’s race that shows Andy Beshear leading Matt Bevin 48-39 among likely voters.

     
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    Seriously? I would have guessed younger. You seem pretty high energy. Props!
     
  20. Lee Atwater

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    Yup, I'm a geezer. But I appreciate the compliment, thx.
     
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    Gordo may not avoid a perjury charge after all.

    Lawyer For Ex-NSC Aide: Sondland ‘Fabricated Communications’ During House Testimony

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/sondland-fiona-hill-fabricated-testimony

    Gordon Sondland — the ambassador who has already had to amend his impeachment testimony once — was accused of fabricating a separate episode in his testimony Wednesday by another witness in the Ukraine inquiry.

    A lawyer for former National Security Council aide Fiona Hill said on Twitter that Sondland had “fabricated” the details of an encounter with Hill he described in his closed-door October deposition. The transcript of the deposition was released Tuesday.
     
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    Lee, you walked right into the trap set by MMC. This thread concerns Trump, foreign interference in our election, and extortion. MMC doesn't want to talk about that and the mounting evidence against Trump. So, he got you to change the subject.

    We all know the Russian conspiracy scenario has not gone away, but that is for another thread.

    In my opinion.
     
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    The top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, Bill Taylor, told House impeachment investigators last month that Trump directed officials to tie military aid to Ukraine to demands that the country open politically advantageous probes for him, according to a transcript of his testimony made public today.

    It also contains new details about the language Taylor used in describing the White House's attempted quid pro quo with Ukraine that shed light on his level of concern about the matter.

    For example, Taylor said he and others "sat in astonishment" as a White House Office of Management and Budget official said during a July 18 inter-agency call that Trump had ordered a hold on military assistance to Ukraine, according to the transcript.

    Taylor stated in plain and clear language that he felt the military aid to Ukraine had been directly tied to Ukraine opening investigations into the Burisma energy company — .code for Hunter Biden and his father, Trump's likely political opponent in November of next year — as well as a conspiracy theory about alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election.

    "That was my clear understanding, security assistance money would not come until the president [of Ukraine] committed to pursue the investigation," Taylor said, according to the transcript.

    It doesn't get any clearer than that.
     
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    A disastrous day for the GOP. The question is, will they learn anything from it? Simply saying the impeachment inquiry is a sham, a Soviet style inquisition will not do. Our Constitution provides for impeachment and gives unconditional control to the House. Ridiculing the impeachment process is ridiculing our Constitution, and voters know that.

    Saying Trump did nothing wrong when he asked for foreign interference in our Presidential election will not do.

    Saying that requesting foreign interference in our Presidential election is not an impeachable offense will not do.

    Saying there is no quid pro quo when members of Trump's own staff, including his chief of staff, have admitted there was quid pro quo will not do.

    Republicans either learn from all this or die (in political terms).
     
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    "I would like you to do us a favor though." Top of page 3, https://www.washingtonpost.com/cont...elensky/4b228f51-17e7-45bc-b16c-3b2643f3fbe0/

    Reader will also find this in the transcript of the July 25 call.

    Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General.· :Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The other thing, there's a lot of.talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.

    A lot of people, including Trump himself, have overlooked that part of the phone call.
     

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