Ukraine removes all 1320 statues of Lenin.

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  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    The problem will only be, if they buy it then as "historical monument" or if they cry Havoc and want do demolish it too...

    Anyway ... again:
    As far as many but not all Civil War statues showing Confederates were placed in the 1960's during the racial crises in the South with the clear intention to show the black who the boss is ... the civil war is a major important part of US history and I think even slavery can't the Confederation being compared with the Nazis and their crimes to become a target as they did...
     
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    You do not need to make an excuse.
     
  3. Ninian

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    Well, how?

    Well, what books? When was it done, and when was it involving regular public and have been a public performance? Where are the photographies? WHERE the mentions?

    The burning of "Manna" during patriarchy of Joachim in XVII century is mentioned.
    The burning of "Nobility Books" after abolition of Mestnichestvo system, in which only people of certain nobility ranks had right to reside on certain governing posts is mentioned.
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    The burning of "Research on russian jews" by Blokh in 1901 is mentioned.
    Where the burning of books by communists?


    Books were banned, redacted, censored. But never they have been burned, especially in public with people being dragged into the act, like it was done by NSDAP.


    Deal with it - this performance was invention of NSDAP, as much as something that have been done for centuries by various people can be invented. They made a show out of it.
     
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    Henry the VIII did it in England.
    Destroyed all papal requilary.

    The state seems to have survived well enough.
     
  5. Ninian

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    Any totable act on big scale goes noticed, and always has more than just one mention. Troia wasn't found because it only was mentioned by Homer.
     
  6. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    6.1 mln birth defects"? "According" to findings of kyiv court? So they don't know for sure either, and your #s are basically wrong. According to Muscovites there was no (g)holodomor, learn to spell, just like you CAN'T prove their aren't russian troops in Ukraine,lol.
     
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    I spell it in proper transliteration. There's difference between Ґ and Х. YOU should be knowing and valuing that.

    And what I quted is not a russian source. Deal with it.
     
  8. Mandelus

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    Ehm ... not yet found the pictures of it ... but only the Nazis did in this scale in public etc.? Really?

    Well, then read and learn:

    01.06.1955 - East Germany (Communist, ruled by the USSR):

    On this day in 1955, a book-burning state took place in the GDR on the evening of the international children's day at a primary school in Berlin Pankow. This was the beginning of multi-governmental actions, organized by the SED (communist party) and the FDJ (communist youth movement), to deal with so-called scandal and dirty literature on the GDR area.

    As such evil literature, all were considered worthless books. These included love romances, crime stories and all books, which do not correspond to the communist ideology!

    Photo of this action (look on the details like uniform of the ladies throwing books and the shield hold ... communist!)

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    Before someone now says, again the evil Germans ... sorry ... the GDR has not even burped without the order and OK of the USSR!

    Source (only in German found aside a note in NY Times):

    http://www.gegenfrage.com/buecherverbrennung-ddr/
     
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    But I am not Heinrich Schliemann and an archeology ;-)

    Give me some time ... even Schliemann did not dig out Troia in some hours, eh?
     
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    not thousands, only hundreds, and they did not burn books.

    show me the documents you got your info from.

    which one mosque was destroyed?

    besides, i take you are from Germany, so i should tell you that German media is one of the most fraudulent and mendacious in the world, they tell you lies, do not trust them.
     
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    Excuse for what?

    I find it really funny when you say I protect Nazis and the others here call me to be a communist. So what are I am now at least, eh?

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
  12. Mandelus

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    Ehm ... sorry, but before you blame as Russian our Media, a media which is for sure not something I like totally ... a look into the mirror of your Putin controlled media is really recommended by me!

    Show me any TV station who regularly has topic of serious critics and accuses towards Putin ... or asking dangerous questions as for example about this villa he built and which cost more as what he officially gets as President of Russia, eh?
    At us this happens into all directions of politics ... even with the not good media we have!
     
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    Action taken in Germany, by german organisations and AFTER the period of nazist book burnings.


    So you understand - I am not giving you any "evil germans" narrative. I am pointing to you that this practice did not came to Germany from Russia. Not more, not less.

    As you pissed off by people making claims of germans being "evil", I am pissed off by people trying to blame their problems on russians. So I find it being important to be making such clearifications.
     
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    Uh yeah...wiki isn't exactly 100% reliable either, unless you weren't aware?!?

    In English it's H, for Russians it's G.
     
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    be careful ... the Western H is in Russian an N ... only a side mark :) ;-)
     
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    I never was demanding instant results, I know it takes time to check sources properly. I only ask to operate with actual information.
     
  18. Ninian

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    In English also Moskva is "Moscow" and Ukraina is "Ukraine". It's full of bad transliterations.


    And "uh, well" - it is something. You for all you worth didn't bringed any sources at all.. Such as these:
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2010/01/15/4619784/
    http://city-adm.lviv.ua/news/society/public-sector/214796-lviv-molytvoiu-vshanuie-zhertv-holodomoru
    https://www.unian.ua/society/311976...rajini-vid-golodomoru-10-mln-63-tis-osib.html
    http://credo.pro/2010/01/12555


    ...that is, by the way, while in actual text of court decree there is not even a mention of "birth deficite".
    http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1265039604

    The number is inflated, presented to public by media and approved by government to turn attention to grief over never existed people to excuse persecution - and now a murder - of existing ones.
     
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    Communism brought nothing but misery to Ukraine and most of Eastern Europe.

    why should they honor the father of that tyranny?
     
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    Remember, rather than honor
     
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    Haha, where did you read that? In shitnik news? haha
     
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    Little IMF whores that they are
     
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    Well the dumb Russians can thank Lenin also for some of the stolen lands too. But I think Lenin said once about "dumb Russians" or was it Catherine the great. Anyway neither one seem to think highly of Russians.


    I hear the melted steel makes for good toilet bowl handles, seems fitting.:).
     
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