Ukraine removes all 1320 statues of Lenin.

What is UP with not just the United States but now Ukraine and God knows who else having this preoccupation with statues of figures in our past.

It's stupid. Rather than focus on actually communicating and resolving issues and or forming action plans policy wise for the actual betterment of our countries... Let's rant and rave about.. Statues.

 

Reminds me of the Gringoes and those Confederate monuments.

 

Well, look at their achievements..! Rising debt, increasing dependancy on supplies from NATO, political and economic crisis and a civil war in the east. But at least they are not influence by "eeeevil russians". By everybody else, but not by us. Definitely an achievement worthy of sovereignity, stability, and over ten thousand lives - and those are only of those who died in war and riots, without counting those who had to flee their very own homes.

Right wing populism, left wing populism - it remains being empty and useless, when behind it stands no sober political program. So my advice - beware populists. I voted for one once - ended up going on rally demanding criminal investigation of this walking disappointment ten years later.

 

Wow, they are about 130 years faster than the US.

 

Some people think so. The Russians have spent treasure and a handful of lives to counter American power. Why? The Spaniards don't care. The Norwegians don't care.

We both know why, and the answer is obvious. Long before anyone cared about human rights "freedom" meant the freedom of one's people from others.

It's a sentiment I can respect, even if blood is shed for it. I get that. Don't you?

Your country has an empire Ninian, just like mine. Some people resent that, from Kazakhs to Arabs. Ukrainians are among them.

 

"Had"an empire....that's why they tear down statues of Lenin. If it was so great why did it collapse, because it wasn't. It's a reminder of subjugation, most russophile would disagree ...because they're butthurt about it...

 

Now you can live in subjugation to western bankers who will appropriate anything of value left in your country

 

Our "empire" a long while ago got a revolution, a civil war, and spent seventy years ill - until it died. What we have now is a federation, with autonomy among regions unimaginable in the past. As much as I am sure foreign media does not bothers to ever mention that - we have politicians discussing issues and finding compromises. The war in Chechnya was not stopped by brute force - brute fore nearly razed Grozny to ground and sent thousands of people, civilians and soldiers, to graves. It ended when people started negotiating. The constant flow of illegal immigrants from middle Asia didn't stopped by magic, it stopped by coordinated efforts of federal government and governments of Omsk, Tumen, Kurgan, Chelabinsk and rest.

Our "imperial" past is where it belongs, in the past. In this century we are doing things differently, we treat each other differently.


What happens in Ukraine right now - is a disgusting display of where lead people who have no worth behind their words. And before that - it basically was a fight with a ghost. USSR is dead, and done. Ineffective, broken in it's nature, it collapsed. It sure did some things right. It did many things wrong. It were us - not ukrainians, not lithuanians, not kazakhs - who went to the streets and took down the ГКЧП. We sure all have common soviet past. But it were russians who sent it to past, and somehow people keep forgetting that.

Especially well they forgot that in Ukraine, thanks to anti-russian campaign in media. And as I said above - result is present. Instead of responsibly choosing government and taking reasonable decidions people followed a bunch of slogans. In the end they are still not in the European Union, are not in Customs Union, have civil war, had region seceeding from the country and have an oligarch for president, AND an army of uncontrolled fuсking armed clowns who claim to fight for sovereignity of state while belong in a straightjacket and a mental jail.

It hardly brings Ukraine any actual freedom.



I understand the scepticism. But living on it forever is impossible. Time moves on, and so do we. So should politics of our countries. And shιt - and I mean as a complete manure of a situation - like one that happens in Ukraine is unacceptable.

 

Those uncontrolled f***ING clowns are supported and funded by your Putinka....if they weren't being supported this conflict wouldve ended ages ago.

Well I see you mentioned the SU, "collapsed", since before you were claiming it just restructured, hmmm, changing your tune it seems?

 

Really...seems we have the higher(est) standards of living in compared to other parts of the world, so subjugation by "western" bankers must be a good thing?

I'm betting you live in same "subjugated" conditions?

 

Hey, what do you know - that one got at least SOMETHING right. Maybe one day he'll learn to pronounce "thank you for preventing coup of 1991 and opening the possibility of peacefully dissoluting the Soviet Union".

 

Well, if you read in my words "restructured" you apparently thicker in skull than I expected. Try saying again "USA made USSR collapse" and you'll get corrected again. Maybe this time you will understand meaning of words written for you.

 

In the TransKarpatian area ( Zakartatia) there was a street named Lenin. The town changed it to Lennon after the Beetle John Lennon. So now the Street is called Ivan Lennon St........ yea yea yea yea

 

What a stupid false lying statement....

 

No, the majority of Ukraine that is not infested with the desease of Russianism did the right thing and realized that the Lenin statues represented the genocide of 6-8 million Ukrainians at the hand of Russian filth.

 

Joke is on you Boychicko Ukrainians are very conservative they hate repressive authoritarian regimes. You are obviously ignorant about politics, history, and lack the desire to educate yourself. You also make a false equivalency between the conditions in Post Soviet lands and the USA.

 

There was German general who wrote in his memoirs that the Germaniacs should have came through Ukraine with the yellow-blue flag and given weapons to Ukrainians who woukd have been only too glad to avenge the 6,000,000 to 8,000,000 Ukrainians murdered by Russians during the Great Famine perpetrated by Stalin in the name of Russian murderers.

 

Lol...I've gotten many things right, you got bankrupted and had no choice. You lost in Afghanistan which contributed to that collapse!

 

That general...I believe...was Heinz Guderian, which was probably one of the best and logical in the Wehrmacht.

 

It is a crime to erect monuments to Red Army murderers who dud not liberate but committed murder, rape, and in some cases caniblism as they advanced a West through Eastern Europe and into Germania. In Germany Red Army and Russian troops raped females and even males from the age of 8 to 80.

I bet that very few members here realize what the extent homo-ism was rampant among Red Army troops. Sadly hundreds of thousands of young Germans were the victims of Red Army butchery and Red Army buggery.

 

Lol, partizan...some russophiles here are just butthurt that the Lenin statues are dropping like flies...it's like a recovering alcoholic whose still in denial!

 

Yes I think so but I read his memoirs a long time ago when Inwas young.

 

Which would be a war crime in itself, just like the accusation levelled at USA for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

 

The best revenge would be to melt down the statues and use the bronze to make shell casings and use the bullets to kill Russian invaders and Traitors.

 

It was a war crime but the FDR regime in the USA was infested with Comminists and pro Russian pro Soviet fifth. There was no desire by Americans to punish Russians since they were blinded by the lies of the Communist fifth column in the US to think that Russians are our friends.

It took the Berlin blockage and Joe McCarthy to point out to Americans that Communists are Russians are vile enemies of the USA.