Unarmed man killed by police who fired 20 rounds at him

police nowadays shot first ask questions later, this guy rolled the dice and lost, crime doesn't always pay

had he been a innocent person shot by a cop in his own backyard, then yes, that would be tragic

 

Yes they do, and murder children in parks. Stay in your back yard in america; fweedumb. Please Wall us in too.

 

did not mater if he was black or white, it's dark, he was fleeing a reported crime scene when requested to freeze, it's game over when a cop tells you to freeze, you try to flee and they think you might be armed, you could end up dead

 

I'm a fairly law and order conservative in my general outlook, however, I researched police shootings in the U.S. for a gun control argument on this board. The numbers are getting ridiculously high, especially considering that murder rates are fairly low. It actually worries me much more than school shootings does (despite the fact that my wife is a teacher, I have a son in high school and one in college).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

There are typically almost 200 a year now. It used to be in the range of 20-30. Something is wrong out there.

 

yes, there is bad calls for sure, remember the video of the guy at the hotel with a pelet gun they thought was a terrorist , maybe him craw on all fours with his legs crossed then murdered him in cold blood, it does happen - I think that cop got off too as they did not let the jury see the video we saw of it

 

still no one has answered my question so I will ask again
why does the majority of unarmed police shootings happen in democrat controlled cities why does democrat appointed police chiefs keeps hiring and or keep on the force these bad cops?

 

Had he been a clean-living, hard-working, stay-at-home-in-the-evenings type of black male, instead of the running around the streets late at night breaking into cars type, would the outcome with those proximate police have been the same ?

 

as more and more people get those arlo and blink type camera's I think it will start to reduce crime

also cops need more access to cell phone data as most criminals have cellphones, you have robberies and car break in, cops should be able to bump the data to data collected by cell phone companies, even without gps turned on, they can get their location by the wifi's they pass by and cell towers

 

And you don't think the bad call was waving pellet guns around for fun? Of course the guys shouldn't have been killed, but when you consider what cops have to contend with today (mass shooters who can look like anyone), it's not surprising AT ALL that they have to pitch for worst case scenario. They genuinely believe they are potentially preventing mass death.

 

6 foot children who look like they're 19, aimlessly loitering in a public park, and waving a gun (real or otherwise - LW won't know) around.

And you blame the Police for this?

 

I do not disagree, many cases I have seen that were unjustified, in this case I do not think based on what I heard so far that it is one of those cases

 

Yet that rarely seems to happen.

 

the pellet gun was in his hotel room with a girl, he did not have the pellet gun when he interacted with police and was murdered

do people have the right to bear arms in this country? pellet guns not count?

nowadays if your armed, you could be shot and killed by a cop in error

 

Yes. Criminals are trying to kill police more.

 

The reports I saw said he'd waved it out of his hotel window .. hence the arrival of the Police. Are you saying people should be allowed to wave anything resembling a gun out of hotel windows with impunity? Last time someone did that, and the cops didn't intervene, 58 people died.

 

if you mean Democratic "controlled" cities well the amswer is simple. Democrats are known to be natural born killers it is in the Democratic DNA that has been passed down since caveman days. This just proves that all police are Democrats , right? LOL

 

So by your logic a cop can murder someone with impunity and no due process is or was ever required since the victim wasn't arrested. Furthermore (still going along with your logic), it's better that police murder people so that the "normal judicial system" doesn't have to begin, therefore making "due process" irrelevant. Yeah you really know your stuff.

I'll take an educated guess that you've never written a legal brief in your life. I suggest you look up procedural due process vs substantive due process. OTOH, never mind, stick to what you believe you know, it makes no difference to me.

 

Ah, guilt by accusation, Police State "justice".

 

A cop can shoot someone who runs from them when committing a crime, ignores commands, and walks towards them, yes.

The victim criminal wasn't arrested because the criminal decided they didn't want to be arrested.

I agree that when violent people force the police to shoot them, it does simplify the process, saves money, reduces crime, and makes us all much safer.

I'm going to take an educated guess that you're familiar with people who like to break the law.

 

I've been alive for some time now, and know plenty of others who've been alive for some time. Yet I don't know a single person - who is entirely free of any and all known associations with the criminal element, or even friends of friends of the criminal element - who has ever been 'guilty by association'. And half of those people I refer to are not white.

You really have to try hard to attract the negative attention of police. You need to deliberately associate yourself with crime in some tangential fashion, if not directly.

 

They didn’t know that before they shot him.

 

Its procedure.

Like how, in most States, an EMT cannot declare death and thus cannot stop resuscitation efforts outside of procedure even if they believe the patient to be dead.

For the police, the step that follows the firing their weapons is not to assume they've disabled or even hit their target but to repeat the commands, approach the suspect as if it is still a threat, and restrain them.

Did you not already know this or were you just being facetious?

 

You don't know if the police knew who he was.

 

Only for KNOWN RACISTS.

 

Yes.