Unarmed man killed by police who fired 20 rounds at him

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  1. grapeape

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    YOU claimed they did. I just refuted that. Thanks for proving my point
     
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    I don't have to refute anything, and no your point wasn't proven as burglary is also a felony.
     
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    Have you ever had your house broken into, suffered a home invasion, been attacked by a thug(s) on the street, etc.? If so, you might have a different attitude about criminals. Reading the story you posted my only surprise is we didn't hear that the criminal was an aspiring rapper or hear someone describe how he was killed just as he was turning his life around.
     
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    I guess the only perfect society is a commie society, <Mod Edit- Rule 4>? Please provide an example of a non-authoritarian power structure other than some hippie commune or the like.
     
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    It's not but then a lawful use of lethal force is not murder is it.

    So again, how do you expect to get due process when you will not submit to the arrest first? Due process starts when you are arrested.

    Definition of due process
    1: a course of formal proceedings (such as legal proceedings) carried out regularly and in accordance with established rules and principles — called also procedural due process
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/due process

    You have to get into court, the formal proceedings, to start your due process. Resisting arrest especially physically and with a threat to the police officers attempting to execute that arrest is a good way to keep yourself from getting due process before the law comes down on you.
     
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    I stop calling people “kids” once they are 18, but I’m logical like that.
     
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    You seem to have difficulty with circumstances of a homicide and simply call it murder. You DO understand that not all homicides are murder and we pay police to enforce the law and if necessary to use lethal force. The question is was it a lawful use of force. We don't know at this point. You DO agree with the stipulation that police ARE authorized to use lethal force?
     
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    Cops say "Show me your hands."

    Shows his hands, including one holding a cell phone. Gets shot anyways.
     
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    You seem to be having trouble comprehending what is "due process" and no police cannot simply murder people with impunity. They CAN use lethal force under color of law and it is NOT murder when they do. Do you understand anything about this at all?
     
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    How did he show his hands, what were his other movements? I can't see in the video.

    But the first question is why did he run and not obey their lawful orders?
     
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    Doesn't matter. Running from the police is not an executable offense.
     
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    Yeah I have grandchildren in college and personally know a few people who have been incarcerated, black and white. In the US, there are more than enough "laws" to make everyone a criminal merely by living in the US. The way it should work in a true system of justice is that everyone is innocent unless and until proven guilty by a valid court of law. That also means a trial by jury, evidence and due process of law. So much for that in the USA where the federal rate of conviction is about 98%, thanks to the unconstitutional fascist system of "plea bargain". But it's even worse than that when police are free to murder unarmed citizens, often with impunity.
     
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    My attitude toward criminals is irrelevant. This discussion is about the murder of an unarmed man by police.

    That's also irrelevant.
     
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    Thank you.

    You just contradicted yourself. Another one who has no clue what due process is. I already directed another poster to get an education on due process (procedural vs substantive).
     
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    It's not but then a lawful use of lethal force is not murder is it.

    You're welcome

    So again, how do you expect to get due process when you will not submit to the arrest first? Due process starts when you are arrested.

    Definition of due process
    1: a course of formal proceedings (such as legal proceedings) carried out regularly and in accordance with established rules and principles — called also procedural due process
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/due process

    You have to get into court, the formal proceedings, to start your due process. Resisting arrest especially physically and with a threat to the police officers attempting to execute that arrest is a good way to keep yourself from getting due process before the law comes down on you.
     
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    Depends. And it is not an execution.
     
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    Do you? That's a joke right? "lethal force" under color of law is not murder? In what world? That's like saying "enhanced interrogation" is not torture. They sure got you spun around with word games.
     
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    Unless the police has serious evidence that the person running away is a potential lethal threat to the public, then yes, it was an extrajudicial execution.
     
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    I clicked "post reply" too soon. I edited my post after you responded.
     
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    Hopefully the cops aren't NBA fans.

    Hopefully, the next time, that Trigger-Happy (pathetic excuse for a "Cop" and a human being) will think twice before murdering an unarmed citizen in cold blood.
     
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    Well, if cops are really racist and hate blacks then they wouldn’t be NBA fans, would they?
     
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    ever heard of the saying a fish rots from the head down
     

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