Uncle Tom's Drag Blacks Down

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  1. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    Well it can't be true that the ONLY reason that there are black people here is because they were brought here AND there are some that have come here on their own.

    Sorry bro.
     
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    if I did say that is the only reason they're here I've corrected myself it is not the only reason they're here it is the reason why there are some here. But that's beside the point.

    You're saying this dude is a race traitor if I'm to understand what Uncle Tom means because he said something you didn't like. What loyalty does anyone owe to anyone based on skin color and physical characteristics?

    Would you think it was any different if a white dude said the exact same thing? Would he be an Uncle Tom? No Uncle Tom's are just black people why not just call him a ******?

    If you think racism is bad especially against black people then quit being racist against black people.

    That's backwards primitive tribalism. Why would you want to devolve?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    most of us Americans are subservient of our corporate bosses, it you want to get ahead in the world, please your boss... I am white btw and applies to me as well

    we would all love to be born on 3rd base like Trump, but we did not win the birth lottery

    we are all Americans, blacks Americans today are just as responsible as white Americans today for the past actions of Americans
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    agree, should thank the whites that helped free them, but not the rich slave owners that enslaved them
     
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    precision Well-Known Member

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    No its not besides the point. The point is that you are talking incoherent nonsense.
     
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    There are limits to everything and I think there are limits to what a person should be prepared to do to please their boss. For example, a woman should not feel like she has to be a sex slave to her boss to get ahead. Neither should a black person feel like he has to be an Uncle Tom to get ahead.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-kelly-harassment-fox-20171023-story.html
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Fain illiteracy to dodge discussion.

    Thats some high level debate skills there.
     
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    precision Well-Known Member

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    Yeah putting forward incoherent nonsense is a high level debate skill. BTW, so are your attempts at sophistry.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    pretending things are incoherent to dodge discussion

    High levels indeed.
     
  10. Renee

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    You’re right....those black people are so lucky they were enslaved and then segregated......they have no idea how lucky they are..
    This may come as a shock to you but Africans have TVs and computers and last I heard there were a few without AIDs
     
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    What about the whites who segregated them?moat of the south
     
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    Not them, their ancestors where slavery and segregation are a thing of the past.
    that means it's just like America
     
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    Segregation is hardly in the past.....it’s just not state sanctioned.
     
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    Oh please. You need to get over your "butthurt" from posting incoherent nonsense. You did it to yourself, nobody made you do it.
     
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    So it's imaginary?
     
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    I was unaware that i was indeed butthurt so consider me over it.
     
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    that is my point, you can't blame all white today for the actions of some in the past, some did good, some did bad, whites today had nothing to do with the actions of the past, judge them based on their own actions today, its racists to do otherwise

    same is true of judging all blacks on the actions of some today, some do good, some bad, it's racist to judge all based on race

    today we have a minority of racists whites that dislike blacks
    today we have a minority of racists blacks that dislike whites

    most people could care less about race
     
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    I would hardly call segregation imaginary.
     
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    You are missing a point and a very important one. Segregation and telling black people that they are inferior was not that long ago in our history.Do you think that because one day it becomes illegal to segregate that suddenly all those internal messages for generations about the inferiority of black people suddenly disappears? The message is internalized in white people it’s that black people are inferior and in black people that they are inferior. It will take generations before those internalized messages disappear.
    If you are really comparing racism equally among blacks and whites then you are telling me quite a bit about yourself
     
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    The point is not to blame someone today for what was done in the past. However, the point is that what has happened in the past with regards to slavery and its aftermath has had an effect on the economic condition that some find themselves in today, AND the way that people think today. You just can't expect to all of a sudden to erase the psychological, sociological, and economic effects of what was the lawful abuse of a whole race of human beings during slavery and the system of legal apartheid that existed in the US in the aftermath of slavery. To think that it can be done is absurd. That's why the position that some have put forward here that slavery has been over for over one hundred years and therefore racism is not a substantial problem for blacks is absurd.
     
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    Current segregation well outside of like females in a locker room and males in another there isn't any.

    I do believe all such laws were deemed illegal in the 1960s.
     
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    Oh stop being silly
     
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    I wasn't.
     
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    I really do not have much respect for anyone who willingly disrespects their own race to the point where they actually say statements somewhat like:, "I am so proud that my grandson wishes he were some other race other than the one he actually is".

    So to be consistent with that, yes, I find it rather absurd that a black person would be so ashamed of his race that he would attempt to justify slavery as a blessing from God that allowed him to get to America. Like there was not other way he would have been born in America except for having some distant relative slave who was lucky enough to have survived the voyage on the slave ship, instead being thrown out for sharks to eat.
     
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    Exactly. The whole notion is beyond stupid. That's why I say, Uncle Tom's who sell out their race in this way engage in disgusting behavior.
     
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