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Under trump, national debt tops $21 trillion for first time ever

Discussion in 'Economics & Trade' started by bhoyal, Aug 15, 2018.

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Was that another whacked out conspiracy theory
     
    Bowerbird, Aug 17, 2018
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    A long history.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_Islands_dispute
    Got source?
     
    ronv, Aug 17, 2018
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  3. Mac-7

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    For the first time ever?

    You make it sound as if previous presidents reduced the national debt instead of also allowing it to grow

    Defecit spending is a bipartisan shame
     
    Mac-7, Aug 17, 2018
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    Yeah and obama pledged that he would not blow up the budget if he were elected either

    But he did
     
    Mac-7, Aug 17, 2018
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  5. dairyair

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    Obama's lies bothered you, why don't tRuMPs?
     
    dairyair, Aug 17, 2018
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  6. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    2018 hardly looks flat
     
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  7. dairyair

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    Libs had nothing to do with 2018 spending. tRuMP and you did
    Now, how will you get credibility back?
     
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    Even though, it was less than bushkie.
    Now, will you get credibility back?
     
    dairyair, Aug 17, 2018
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    And you're ok that tRUMP is worse than obama. Hmm.
     
    dairyair, Aug 17, 2018
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    Not a massive increase either. In January we went from 3140 to 3152(+12 billion) And then we went from 3152 to 3168(+16 billion.)

    The ill-fated tax bill(that POTUS Trump said he'd never sign again) definitely contributes, as you can see from July 16 to July '17(admittedly July 16 is the Obama Administration but a GOP Congress) it was decreasing/at least in its current level.

    So we can't say it's drunk spending, it's the normal rate of spending as the past 16 years. Our problem isn't too much our spending, its what we're spending on. But I can't control it and neither can you. Let's take our combined complaint to the Worst Congress in US History.
     
    AmericanNationalist, Aug 18, 2018
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    No they didn't.

    When he said you can keep your plan I just laughed to myself, I knew that wasn't going to happen.

    The only reason I bring it up now is because of people attacking Trump for lying.
     
    Spooky, Aug 18, 2018
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    Not worse

    But no better at budget control than previous presidents
     
    Mac-7, Aug 18, 2018
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    Right ... totally ignore the $20 tn already accrued, focus on $1 tn half way through Trump's term. Never mind the OP title could be "cut & paste" 20 times ... :roll: 1st tn ... 2 nd tn ... good grief.
     
    PrincipleInvestment, Aug 18, 2018
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    The world economy is a house of cards

    Both America and china are living beyond our means
     
    Mac-7, Aug 18, 2018
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    You keep saying trump is worse than obama as if that lets your slug off the hook

    It doesent
     
    Mac-7, Aug 18, 2018
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    And I am quite sure you whined, cried, and complained about them. Now it's ok. Typical partisan hypocrisy.
     
    dairyair, Aug 18, 2018
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    I keep saying it because all tRUMPers said for 8 yrs was how bad the budget is. How bad the deficit is, now it' all perfectly fine.
    Just showing the hypocrisy.
    I had no slug, no independent was prez. So you're little dig means nothing.
     
    dairyair, Aug 18, 2018
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    My flip to your flop?

    Neither party is willing to end the deficit spending
     
    Mac-7, Aug 18, 2018
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    Obama had his eight years of borrow and spend

    Now its trumps turn
     
    Mac-7, Aug 18, 2018
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    Mac, that attitude is what has caused voters to accept it. I don't accept it from either party.
     
    fmw, Aug 18, 2018
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    Its sad to say but I dont think our culture supports fiscal responsibility anymore
     
    Mac-7, Aug 18, 2018
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    wow, two years in, Dirty Donald set the all time record for the hugest national debt ever
     
    FreshAir, Aug 18, 2018
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    we are still paying for Bush's two 10+ year multi trillion dollar wars - we over reacted to that attack, it cost us Trillions, not to mention the blood and lives of so many of our soldiers

    not to mention Bush's choice to nation-build in Iraq vs nation build in our own country
     
    FreshAir, Aug 18, 2018
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    money Iran gave to us and we never fulfilled our side on the deal, we gave them back their own money for agreeing to the deal

    Trump ended the deal, so they got their money and no longer have to honor the deal.... Trump is a idiot

    now how much money did Bush spend in Iraq
     
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    FreshAir, Aug 18, 2018
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    We are still paying for all the expensive mistakes of the past 30 years military and socal
     
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