Under what conditions we need a revolution/civil war?

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  1. BahamaBob

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    Your whole post is BS. You say they worked across the isles. Show me one instance. Obama Care was passed without even a debate. Obama bragged about legislating with his phone and pen. 95% of all wealth created under Obama went to the top 1%. Under Obama median income went down, job participation rate went down, food stamp dependents went up, the number of people dependent on welfare went up. The list goes on. Obama threw away billions of our tax dollars on companies lie Solyndra. Obama gave the biggest terrorist nation on earth over a hundred billion dollars. Obama drew a line then peed down his leg when it was crossed. Obama called ISIS the JV and said Assad would be gone in 6 months. No way did he make it better for anyone other than his rich golf buddies and big money contributors.

    Now you whine when Trump passes a tax cut, makes better trade deals, starts a peace process with North Korea, starts a program to clean our oceans, creates real jobs for middle Americans, creates lowest unemployment numbers in history for Blacks and Hispanics, creates a business environment that has an untold number of companies coming back to the US, makes NATO countries start paying their share again, on and on. All without any Democtrat support.

    Go peddle your BS somewhere else, no one is buying it.
     
  2. TOG 6

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    Same can he said for Hillary - right?
    Just checking...
     
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    As I thought - you cannot cite a single person among Obama's political opponents would have accepted his policies/agenda if he were white.

    This negates your claim that "The only thing Obama did to divide the nation was to dare to be black."

    Why did you make a race-based claim you knew you could not support?
     
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    I know of no example in my lifetime when the majority leader of the U.S. Senate & member of the opposition party, publicly announced his determination to oppose everything the new President so much as suggested without any concern for its merits. If that was a totally political statement, then its the most extreme premeditated policy of political division since the Civil War. But I doubt McConnell decided to make politics totally polarize into black & white for political reasons alone. Why would he? Liberals & conservatives had been working together on issues with common ground for over 150 years, uninterrupted. Why would McConnell suddenly & viciously change that for political reasons only? The fact that he announced that change on the same day or within a couple of days of Obama's inauguration, would suggest Obama's uniqueness as America's first black President might have had something to do with it. Also, the fact that all the Republicans in the Congress had worked across the aisle with Democrats before Obama, but all that came to a sudden, screeching halt after Obama was sworn in, also lends evidence to a racist aspect to the new policy. Obama was no more liberal than President Carter had been. He was only slightly more liberal than Clinton had been. Obama was a positive thinking, deeply caring President, toward the U.S. as a nation and toward its people as individuals. He tried his best to help those Americans least able to help themselves, while at the same time dealing with an economy wrecked by his predecessor. I doubt anyone could have done better given the same situation upon entering office--not even a white man. But the Republican Congress might have done better because if Obama had been white, they would have probably made more of an effort to work with him in areas of common interest.
     
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    Your attempt to avoid what I said is noted. Lets go back to that...

    The fact you cannot cite ONE person who would have supported Obama's policies/agenda if He wee white negates your claim that "The only thing Obama did to divide the nation was to dare to be black."

    Why did you make a race-based claim you knew you could not support?
     
  6. LiveUninhibited

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    I don't think anybody is laughing about that. Or if they are, they're crazy like the guy mailing bombs. We left because it wasn't worth it to us. Perhaps we could have won eventually if we had sacrificed enough lives and depopulated Vietnam, but it wasn't a worthwhile goal to begin with, let alone worth thousands more American lives.
     

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