Unmasking Antifa Act of 2018

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, they don't.

    They have about 5,000 active members, and 329,000 leftist groupies and government agents watching them.

    Even the SPLC sort of admits the truth:

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/stormfront

    By 2008, membership had topped 133,000 registered users, although only about 20,000 were believed to be active posters. That doesn't include the large numbers of those who simply read Stormfront postings without joining up (becoming a member allows one to post messages and also to view personal information posted by other members).
     
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  2. Your Best Friend

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    Very well.



    Okay, but dealing the race card right off the top of the deck is standard fare for some. Issues are almost always more nuanced.



    A sensible view
    in line with old timey liberal values. I hold these values also.



    A lot of them do NOT display old timey liberal values so I doubt
    they care.
     
  3. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say you said that explicitly or put it in quotes indicating it was a direct statement.

    But it is absolutely consistent with and reflected in your posts, including the few I just cited, and I stand by it.

    But if you want to tell the board that I am wrong, and that you do not think the white race is superior to other races like blacks and hispanics, here's your chance to do so.
     
  4. Brewskier

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    Double post
     
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  5. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prove your claim.

    If they didn't "join up," they wouldn't be members.

    But why did you not post this language from your article?

    Stormfront had accumulated nearly 300,000 members as of its 20th anniversary as of March 2015. Two months later, that benchmark was officially passed. This growth in membership seems poised to continue, despite declining Alexa Internet traffic ratings (which measure all visitors, not just registered members), as the majority of the radical right continues to use the Internet as its primary means of activism.

    Was that a mistake on your part, or are you being intentionally deceptive?
     
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  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You see whites as the inferior race based on your posts.
     
  7. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you accusing me of that? If not, why are you bringing it up to me?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They join up for the obvious reason of being able to see the personal information of the other posters, as I indicated.

    Their active base is a tiny percentage of the number of registered accounts.

    How many registered accounts at PF are there?

    So you want to suggest 300k members and declining traffic to the site indicates it's growing?

    Would you like me to break that down for you barney style?
     
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  9. Iriemon

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    Please quote and link to a post of mine that you claim supports the baseless, bullshit assertion you just made. Thank you.

    So many conservatives waltz in and make up some bullshit claim as if it somehow makes a valid argument.

    And then when they are confronted on it the dodge or disappear.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prove it. You're "indication" is proof of nothing.

    And while you're at it, where is your proof of that last claim you made?

    How many?

    And why did you dodge my question about the text from your source I quoted saying there were over 300,000 members now with a surge in new membership in the donald era?

    Was that a mistake on your part, or are you being intentionally deceptive?

    You're "funny".
     
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  11. Brewskier

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    Your biased misreprentations and interpretations of my posts are biased and misrepresented.

    I’ve said it countless times. All races have the strengths and weaknesses. They’re just different. I think whites have many admirable and desirable qualities that I would like to see exist in the future. I think they should have a right to exist, like all people. They are a global minority already, less than 10% of the world’s population, so why are you in support of making them into a minority in every country to the point where they no longer have the ability to self govern?

    I wish you would honestly answer that, because we both know the reason, don’t we?
     
  12. vman12

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    Prove what? You yourself obviously visit stormfront all the time, I don't know how many times you've linked it yourself.

    I didn't dodge it, I ignored your stupid comment. I ignored it because I don't quote entire articles.

    Was that a mistake on your part, or are you just being intentionally obtuse?
     
  13. Brewskier

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    They do believe whites, and everybody not like them, are inferior, but they actually see whites as their greatest threat to world domination. That’s why they want to destroy whites as a race.
     
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    Oh, and no problem.

    Between 6k and 10k according to SPLC. Is that lefty enough for you.

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...e-users-post-count-high-registrations-decline
     
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    Sure. Expect blacks are stupid and criminals and hispanics countries are shitholes. But you view them as admirable and desirable.

    Another Brewskier falsehood. Prove that I "support of making them into a minority in every country to the point where they no longer have the ability to self govern" as you falsely claimed.
     
  16. Thought Criminal

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    I can't prevent you from taking quotes of mine out of centext and then misapplying them. I can, however, mock you for it.

    You mad, bro?

    Meanwhile; you haven't proven that a single member of Stormfront, or a single Nazi, neo-Nazi, racist, whateverophobe, or even a single poster on PF, is a Republican.
     
  17. Iriemon

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    But why did you not post this language from your article?

    Stormfront had accumulated nearly 300,000 members as of its 20th anniversary as of March 2015. Two months later, that benchmark was officially passed. This growth in membership seems poised to continue, despite declining Alexa Internet traffic ratings (which measure all visitors, not just registered members), as the majority of the radical right continues to use the Internet as its primary means of activism.

    Was that a mistake on your part, or are you being intentionally deceptive?

    Those are old figures. But whether they actively post or not doesn't reflect on their political persuasion.

    If you want to pretend that the 324,000 people who signed up to member members on Stromfront are Democrats, fine. Maybe others will be impressed with that argument.
     
  18. Iriemon

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    Nope. Just demonstrating another conservative making BS claims he can't back up. And pointing out your positions for the board and how you refuse to denounce racism or fascism.

    It's consistent with your posts. R U bro?

    If you want to pretend that the 324,000 people who signed up to member members on Stromfront are Democrats, fine. Maybe others will be impressed with that argument.
     
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  19. Brewskier

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    I’m sorry things like IQ tests and crime statistics don’t support your egalitarian worldview, but I didn’t make it that way. You shouldn’t be mad at me for noticing things.

    And yes, most Hispanic countries are shitholes. You can look at Mexico right to our Southern border, where most of our immigrants have come from over the past 50 years, for an example of that. Half our population yet they exceed the US total for murder.

    You support our current immigration laws which are achieving that goal. You call me and anyone else who would want to take action to prevent whites from becoming minorities “fascist”. How could you not support that?
     
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    How is that obvious?

    You cite a portion of an article saying there were 133,000 members to rebut my statement there were over 300,000, but intentionally omit the portion about the surge in membership in the donald era to over 300,000?

    Now we know it was no mistake.

    No mistake. What is "obtuse" about it?[/quote]
     
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  21. Brewskier

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    I’m happy to let you think Boomerfront is where all the action is on the right.
     
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    Yet you view them as "admirable and desirable" and not inferior to whites in the least.

    Sure.

    Another Brewskier falsehood. I've never said squat amount immigration policies.

    He cannot make an arguement without starting off with falsehoods. Again and again and again.
     
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    Since you're adopting his claim, quote and link my posts that you contend shows I believe whites are inferior.

    Another Brewskier falsehood.
     
  24. Brewskier

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    Just because I don’t want them and their culture in any country I’d want to be in doesn’t mean I don’t find aspects of their culture unique and worth preserving. Unlike the people who want whites completely extinct as a race, I don’t want ANY race to go extinct. I want them to exist and have their own lands where they can carry on their culture and people. What’s ironic is that I am the one who stands for diversity, since I want human diversity to be preserved. I don’t want humanity mixed into a nondescript blob. Where’s the “diversity” in that? Yet that’s what “diversity” advocates are hoping for. It makes no sense.


    You stated that my support for laws that would retain the white majority were “white supremacist” and “fascist”. That would imply you support the post-1965 immigration laws, which are turning whites into a minority in the US. You support that. You can’t even be honest enough to say so.
     
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    I’m certain there are no posts of this nature.
     

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